Please critique my protocol

[Pagola44]

So i'm currently finishing my 6 months adjuvant chemotherapy. Once finished i'm thinking about this protocol would like some critique /feed back:

- Exercise 6x a week (3x Cardio / 3x Fully body weight lifting)
- Sleep aim for 7+ hours
- Fating 12-14 hours daily
- Daily consumption of tree nuts
- Daily consumption of coffee and natural decaf coffee
- Weekly consumption of fatty fish
- Limit red meat
- Daily consumption of berry smoothie (Mixed berries) + with tumeric powder
- Daily Vitamin D3 supplement
- Maintain sub 15% body fat
- Try and Eat fruit daily and vegetables daily
- Try and increase consumptions of beans and legumes
- Follow Mediterranean diet, high olive oil consumption
- Low sugar consumption, consume carbs from wholegrain foods
- edit: ip6 daily consumption supplement

Anything else to add? such as green tea?

Thanks

[Rock_Robster]

All looks very reasonable to me.

You might be interested in some of the studies around fasting, which suggested that ~13 hours was the point at which they saw potential impacts on cancer outcomes (studied in breast cancer). I don’t know if moving more toward a 16/8 is practical for you?

Have you given any thought to supplements and off-label medications on an ongoing basis?

[Pagola44]

All looks very reasonable to me.

You might be interested in some of the studies around fasting, which suggested that ~13 hours was the point at which they saw potential impacts on cancer outcomes (studied in breast cancer). I don’t know if moving more toward a 16/8 is practical for you?

Have you given any thought to supplements and off-label medications on an ongoing basis?

Interesting, yea 13 would probably be better for me.

I'm still not sure if I should take daily dose aspirin or not. My oncologist said that once I receive test results from my genetic testing they will advise me. However, even so it seems to have very strong benefits in relation to cancer recurrence and outcomes.

I've also looked at other products that seem popular on here, ip6, curcumin etc i'm not sure if I should go all guns blazing and take all these supplements

[Markdale]

What was your diet like before diagnosis? Did you exercise a lot?

[Pagola44]

What was your diet like before diagnosis? Did you exercise a lot?

Yes I did, i played sports several times a week and went to the gym

I didn't drink , smoke and would never eat artificial things, barely ate high sugar things like chocolate etc

Mostly ate healthy typical foods I'd eat would be oats, tuna, eggs, meat, salads etc.

I also took vitamins daily, vitmain c, vitamin b complex, bioten, collagen

Gee, makes me think maybe diet and exercise doesn't do much :/ or alternatively, maybe it did? maybe if i didn't; do those things i;d have a more advanced disease...

kinda crazy when you think about it?

[Rock_Robster]

All looks very reasonable to me.

You might be interested in some of the studies around fasting, which suggested that ~13 hours was the point at which they saw potential impacts on cancer outcomes (studied in breast cancer). I don’t know if moving more toward a 16/8 is practical for you?

Have you given any thought to supplements and off-label medications on an ongoing basis?

Interesting, yea 13 would probably be better for me.

I'm still not sure if I should take daily dose aspirin or not. My oncologist said that once I receive test results from my genetic testing they will advise me. However, even so it seems to have very strong benefits in relation to cancer recurrence and outcomes.

I've also looked at other products that seem popular on here, ip6, curcumin etc i'm not sure if I should go all guns blazing and take all these supplements

Yeah there’s a bunch of things that are fairly common amongst survivors, of course you’d need to have a look and see which you think suit you and you’re happy to be on. For me the list of things to consider would look something like the below…

Vitamin D
Curcumin
Resveratrol / ECGC
Niacinamide
Melatonin
Metformin
Aspirin
Quercetin
PSK / beta glucans

In my view vitamin D, PSK, metformin, and aspirin probably have the strongest empirical evidence base behind them. Curcumin is probably not far behind. But arguments can be made for all of the above (and many more) based on different therapeutic objectives and pathways.

You’re still in Melbourne right? If you don’t mind throwing a little cash at the problem there’s a couple of good integrative GPs at NIIM in Hawthorn that can help with this (and with prescriptions if needed). I had one consult with Prof. Avni Sali (the founder of the clinic) which was pretty intense, but you wouldn’t have to see him specifically.

https://niim.com.au/clinic

https://niim.com.au/clinic/practitioner ... -avni-sali

[Pagola44]

All looks very reasonable to me.

You might be interested in some of the studies around fasting, which suggested that ~13 hours was the point at which they saw potential impacts on cancer outcomes (studied in breast cancer). I don’t know if moving more toward a 16/8 is practical for you?

Have you given any thought to supplements and off-label medications on an ongoing basis?

Interesting, yea 13 would probably be better for me.

I'm still not sure if I should take daily dose aspirin or not. My oncologist said that once I receive test results from my genetic testing they will advise me. However, even so it seems to have very strong benefits in relation to cancer recurrence and outcomes.

I've also looked at other products that seem popular on here, ip6, curcumin etc i'm not sure if I should go all guns blazing and take all these supplements

Yeah there’s a bunch of things that are fairly common amongst survivors, of course you’d need to have a look and see which you think suit you and you’re happy to be on. For me the list of things to consider would look something like the below…

Vitamin D
Curcumin
Resveratrol / ECGC
Niacinamide
Melatonin
Metformin
Aspirin
Quercetin
PSK / beta glucans

In my view vitamin D, PSK, metformin, and aspirin probably have the strongest empirical evidence base behind them. Curcumin is probably not far behind. But arguments can be made for all of the above (and many more) based on different therapeutic objectives and pathways.

You’re still in Melbourne right? If you don’t mind throwing a little cash at the problem there’s a couple of good integrative GPs at NIIM in Hawthorn that can help with this (and with prescriptions if needed). I had one consult with Prof. Avni Sali (the founder of the clinic) which was pretty intense, but you wouldn’t have to see him specifically.

https://niim.com.au/clinic

https://niim.com.au/clinic/practitioner ... -avni-sali

Great stuff, really appreciate the information,

in your opinion do you think those supplements are worth taking?

[Rock_Robster]

Well it’s quite personal as you need to make your own decision based on the benefits vs risks, and what you’re prepared to commit to both in terms of pill burden and financially (some of those are not particularly cheap, especially the compounded meds). But I’d say they’re all worth looking at.

For me, most of the above had very little side effects so taking them wasn’t a big deal. However metformin can cause diarrhea and make some people very gassy, resverstrol/ECGC can cause elevated liver enzymes, and melatonin can cause drowsiness or interfere with sleep patterns. So it’s really just a matter of seeing how you handle them, and how you want to spend your energy and money.