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Cancer Journey Update

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:49 am
by crikklekay
This year has been so incredibly hard for many reasons, and I can’t believe it’s already October. I’ve popped in several times all year with John’s CEA troubles so I thought I’d post an update.

Recap: John’s routine blood work came back with elevated CEA so he was given all the basic scans/tests/etc while continuing to monitor CEA. It kept climbing and the tests were all negative until his first PET scan which showed a spot on his liver that was then confirmed by an MRI.

We had difficulty finding someone who would remove the spot on his liver as it was high up on the dome and had to travel to get the procedure done. Then we had more delays as that hospital’s cancer team didn’t want to remove the spot but do chemo first, the thought being they could see if the chemo was working to shrink it before removal. His normal team argued that we couldn’t get a biopsy to confirm what it is, and since other cancers can make CEA rise they didn’t want to blindly give him chemo and weaken his body to the point he may not be able to get surgery down the line. In the end they agreed the best course was to remove the spot to know exactly what it was. It took a very long surgery and a week in the hospital with an ileus complication but the surgeon confirmed he removed the spot and found nothing else on his liver or in/around his abdominal cavity in the area he was working. It was confirmed as mCRC and he started Folfiri with Avastin last month.

His oncologist did a “blood biopsy” and sent samples out to two labs prior to his surgery and confirmed there are cancer cells floating around in his bloodstream. Neither one was covered by insurance and I’m terrified to get the bills in the mail based on what the EOB says we owe. I wonder if she will want to repeat them after chemo to see if there are still cells floating? I would hope so, though the idea of paying for them out of pocket a second time is not great.

The good news is his CEA dropped after surgery! From over 25 down to just over 2. The hope is the surgeon got everything and all that’s left is to kill the floaters. So far chemo isn’t kicking John’s butt, though he hates how every other weekend now consists of him being too tired to move on the couch. That and his hair is falling out which makes him mad. I know his side effects may become more of an issue down the line as the chemo builds up in his system, but I hope it’s a slow process for his sake.

Re: Cancer Journey Update

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:12 am
by Hooandtrue93
Do you know if your doctor can do a ctDNA test instead? I think medicaid/medicare cover those. It looks for tumor dna in the bloodstream and may actually be more sensitive than a CTC test (looking for cells in the blood stream)

Re: Cancer Journey Update

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:44 pm
by crikklekay
I don’t know, I haven’t heard of that before. I’ll ask at his next appointment, thank you!!

Re: Cancer Journey Update

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:10 pm
by catstaff
About CTC https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/articles/features/ctc/ It's FDA approved so could be covered. ctDNA may be more for looking at targeted drugs https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/canc ... d-approval (colorectal doesn't seem to be included there, however).

Folfiri usually doesn't cause all the hair to fall out; it will fall out for several weeks then usually stabilizes (but much thinner than before).

CEA going to normal is very positive.

Re: Cancer Journey Update

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:30 am
by DarknessEmbraced
I'm sorry that a spot showed up in his liver and that he's having a hard time. *hugs* I hope he feels better soon.