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natelaugh
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THC RSO

Postby natelaugh » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:01 pm

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has look into THC such as Rick Simpson Oil as an alternative cure? I have been reading the forum and it seems the standard chemo are FOLFOX and CAPOX. However, it is not certain that after treatment, there is no more cancer in the blood. Moreover, the chemo treatment has to stop at some point because there is no detectable cancer cell or not effective.

My point is I think there should to be a preventive med such as THC or some med where you can take it daily as a maintenance to stop cancer cell.

I love to hear any feed back.

Thanks,
Nate.
Caregiver to 80M
DX:CC,RC,desc
11/2018 rightPain
1/19/19 scopy,path
1/23 CTscan
2/19 surgery
2/26-2/28 NGTube
2/28-3/14 TPN bc ileus
3/2 2nd surgeryCloseOpenWound
3/4-3/28 woundVac
size: 6cm Adenocarcinoma
grade Poorly
Stage IIIC T3N2aMx
PositiveLymph:5of28
BaselineCEA:68
LVI:Y
PNI:N
Surgical margins:clear
MSI:MMR (MLH1, MSH2, MSH6, PMS2) Intact nuclear expression
Lynch status:N
Laparascopic, partial colectomy
CEA:3/28/19 2.8
Chemo:4/16/19-9/17/19 5FU,12cycles,every 14days,leucoverin,zofran,Dexamethasone

martd
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Re: THC RSO

Postby martd » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:32 pm

Pretty sure if THC could cure cancer the oncology profession would not exist. THC can help with side effects from chemo but it's not going to kill a cancer cell.
49 y/o male dx 11/2017 crc
Stage 4 with 17 liver Mets, cea 490
RAS, BRAF WT Tp53 LOF
12 rounds folfox , avastin
5/18 cea 2.8 liver resection and pve
7/18 part 2 liver resection, remove right side of liver
Surgical site mrsa infection, wound vac
8/18 cea .9 cCR, rectal tumor is gone
Rectal surgery postponed, watch and wait
10/18 clear scan CEA .7
01/19 clear scan CEA .9
04/19 clear scan CEA .9
07/19 clear scan CEA 1.0

Pyro
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Re: THC RSO

Postby Pyro » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:55 pm

I’ve heard RSO is a hell of a buzz, anyone?

And totally agree with the above post.
Aug 2015- Stage 4 CC with liver Mets(38/m)
Sep 2015- Avastin/Folfox/Iron
Dec 2015-Not liver surgery candidate
Jan 2016- Erbitux/Folfiri, 2nd opinion at MDA in TX
Feb 2016 -MDA liver surgery
Mar 2016 -30% of left lobe rem, PVE
May 2016 - 70% of liver rem
Jun 2016-Rad
Jan 2017-perm colost @MDA
Jul 2017-Erb/FOLFURI
Nov 2017 -Lung & Liver ablations@MDA
Jan 2018 -Xeloda & Avastin mx
Jul 2018-Avast/FOLFURI
Sep 2018-Rad
Mar 2019 - Keytruda fail
Jun 2019 - FOLFURI
Aug 2019 - No more, quality time!

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Re: THC RSO

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natelaugh
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Re: THC RSO

Postby natelaugh » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:25 am

I had give my dad Cannabidiol CBD, tetrahydrocannabinol THC tincture with 1:3 ratio when his doctor told him he had cancer and I was concern his cancer will spread. It was given 1 week 10-15ml at night. During this time, he had blood test and I read his kidney function Glomerular filtration rate(GFR). It improved 7 points. The GFR standard range is >= 60 mL/min. He was at 36 on 1/25/19 and it went up to 43 mL/min on 2/1/19. His GFR had always been in range of 36-38 mL/min because he has chronic kidney disease.

After stopping his cannabis med his GFR drop to 39 on 2/13/19. I had to stop a week before his right colectomy surgery on 2/19/19. He was on TPN for 2 weeks from 2/28/19 to 3/14/19 because small intestine didn't wake up and he could not eat.

Post surgery his GFR is at 41 mL/min on 3/28/19. I have not use any cannabis med because he is going to be doing chemotherapy 5 fu for 6 months in a few week.
Caregiver to 80M
DX:CC,RC,desc
11/2018 rightPain
1/19/19 scopy,path
1/23 CTscan
2/19 surgery
2/26-2/28 NGTube
2/28-3/14 TPN bc ileus
3/2 2nd surgeryCloseOpenWound
3/4-3/28 woundVac
size: 6cm Adenocarcinoma
grade Poorly
Stage IIIC T3N2aMx
PositiveLymph:5of28
BaselineCEA:68
LVI:Y
PNI:N
Surgical margins:clear
MSI:MMR (MLH1, MSH2, MSH6, PMS2) Intact nuclear expression
Lynch status:N
Laparascopic, partial colectomy
CEA:3/28/19 2.8
Chemo:4/16/19-9/17/19 5FU,12cycles,every 14days,leucoverin,zofran,Dexamethasone

Beccaschocked
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Re: THC RSO

Postby Beccaschocked » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:34 pm

I took RSO before and following my most recent bout with cancer. It certainly helped with pain management. I was able to manage pain 100% with the oil. That said, I can’t really speak for how it works on fighting cancer as the surgery alone was with “curable intent”. I certainly wouldn’t rely on it as the sole treatment, but rather an integrative approach with allopathic therapies.
Dx @ 32, mom to 6 week old and 2 year old (now 3 & 5)
3/2015 stage IV colon cancer Mets to liver. CEA > 8,000.
4/2015- June 15; 3 infusions folfoxiri +avastin, 4 infusions folfox
7/2015 colon & liver resection; 6 infusions of folfiri
1/2016-5/2017 NED (5mm lung nodule stable)
10/2017- growing lung nodule 12mm from 5mm-Confirmed recurrence - CEA 2.5
11/2017- lobectomy- no chemo
1/2018- CT & PET back to NED. CEA 1.3; 1.4; 1.2; 1.2.; 1.0; 1.1; 1.1; 0.9
7/18, 1/19, 7/19 clean scans NED

zephyr
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Re: THC RSO

Postby zephyr » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:36 pm

Pyro wrote:I’ve heard RSO is a hell of a buzz, anyone?

I sometimes use it at night to slow down my GI system so I can sleep (works much better than Imodium - at least for me - and doesn't cause constipation as sometimes occurs with Imodium). RSO is basically the whole plant with all the cannabinoids extracted, and then condensed into something that resembles tar. It usually comes in a small (pediatric size) syringe. If it produces a buzz, I missed it because a grain-of-rice-size dose puts me out for about 8 hours.
Nov-2009 Early stage CRC found during routine colonoscopy
2010, 2011, 2014 F/U colonoscopies, all clear
Jun-2016 CRC during followup colonoscopy, surgery, Stage 4, KRAS, MSS, inoperable lung mets
Aug-2016-May-2018 Folfox, 5FU & Avastin, 5FU, Folfiri & Cyramza
Aug/Sep-2018 YAG laser surgeries (Germany), 11 nodules removed
Nov-2018 clean CT scan
Mar-2019 New lung nodules
Apr-2019 Dec-2020 Xeloda/Avastin, SBRT, cont. Xeloda/Avastin
Dec-2020 Progression, considering all options
Mar-2021 Forfiri/Avastin

natelaugh
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Re: THC RSO

Postby natelaugh » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:58 pm

Beccaschocked wrote:I took RSO before and following my most recent bout with cancer. It certainly helped with pain management. I was able to manage pain 100% with the oil. That said, I can’t really speak for how it works on fighting cancer as the surgery alone was with “curable intent”. I certainly wouldn’t rely on it as the sole treatment, but rather an integrative approach with allopathic therapies.


Hi Beccaschocked,

Did you use RSO and chemotherapy together? How long and often did you use RSO? Do you think RSO and chemo together cause issues?

Thanks,
Nate.
Caregiver to 80M
DX:CC,RC,desc
11/2018 rightPain
1/19/19 scopy,path
1/23 CTscan
2/19 surgery
2/26-2/28 NGTube
2/28-3/14 TPN bc ileus
3/2 2nd surgeryCloseOpenWound
3/4-3/28 woundVac
size: 6cm Adenocarcinoma
grade Poorly
Stage IIIC T3N2aMx
PositiveLymph:5of28
BaselineCEA:68
LVI:Y
PNI:N
Surgical margins:clear
MSI:MMR (MLH1, MSH2, MSH6, PMS2) Intact nuclear expression
Lynch status:N
Laparascopic, partial colectomy
CEA:3/28/19 2.8
Chemo:4/16/19-9/17/19 5FU,12cycles,every 14days,leucoverin,zofran,Dexamethasone

Beccaschocked
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Re: THC RSO

Postby Beccaschocked » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:21 pm

Nate,

So Sorry it took me a bit to respond. I used RSO to help with my side effects during chemo. It helps emensily!

When I had my lung recurrence we didn’t do chemo, and I used theaputic doses both as pain management and In hopes of reading any microscopic cancer.

My lobectomy put me back to NED, so I really don’t know if it helped, but definetly recommend using it for side effects.

If the cancer comes back, I’d do both chemo and therapeutic doses of RSO
Dx @ 32, mom to 6 week old and 2 year old (now 3 & 5)
3/2015 stage IV colon cancer Mets to liver. CEA > 8,000.
4/2015- June 15; 3 infusions folfoxiri +avastin, 4 infusions folfox
7/2015 colon & liver resection; 6 infusions of folfiri
1/2016-5/2017 NED (5mm lung nodule stable)
10/2017- growing lung nodule 12mm from 5mm-Confirmed recurrence - CEA 2.5
11/2017- lobectomy- no chemo
1/2018- CT & PET back to NED. CEA 1.3; 1.4; 1.2; 1.2.; 1.0; 1.1; 1.1; 0.9
7/18, 1/19, 7/19 clean scans NED


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