heiders33 wrote:Thanks for the tip on electrolytes. I have been taking magnesium supplements and drank a Gatorade the day before infusion and Pedialyte the day of. I believe that is directly connected to my not experiencing hand or leg cramping this time around. I have a little stiffness in my fingers, but nothing as bad as previous rounds. I also don't really have first bite pain this time, just mild discomfort. Amazing!
heiders33 wrote:Yes, I meant to add that it was a low sugar Gatorade that I drank.
rachel2017 wrote:NHMike wrote: I've also read that chemo can spread cancer in a recent article - it doesn't spread it itself but the mechanism may make it more likely to spread.
hey, Mike, could you please give me the link of the article you read that says chemo can spread the cancer. My mom is very unlucky and her cancer had been spread aggressively after the chemo. We went to three cancer center and all the drs denied the chemo spread my mom's cancer. I would like to read the article and show the drs. Thanks a lot!
rachel2017 wrote:NHMike wrote: I've also read that chemo can spread cancer in a recent article - it doesn't spread it itself but the mechanism may make it more likely to spread.
hey, Mike, could you please give me the link of the article you read that says chemo can spread the cancer. My mom is very unlucky and her cancer had been spread aggressively after the chemo. We went to three cancer center and all the drs denied the chemo spread my mom's cancer. I would like to read the article and show the drs. Thanks a lot!
veckon wrote:rachel2017 wrote:NHMike wrote: I've also read that chemo can spread cancer in a recent article - it doesn't spread it itself but the mechanism may make it more likely to spread.
hey, Mike, could you please give me the link of the article you read that says chemo can spread the cancer. My mom is very unlucky and her cancer had been spread aggressively after the chemo. We went to three cancer center and all the drs denied the chemo spread my mom's cancer. I would like to read the article and show the drs. Thanks a lot!
The source study linked in the article is this: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/9/397/eaan0026
If you actually read the paper (and note the errata) you will see how their research DOES NOT generalize from the specific genetics of the breast cancer they studied in combination with the specific chemotherapy drugs used.
"Chemotherapy" is a GENERAL term for a broad class of drugs used to treat cancer in a similar manner. The chemotherapy drugs used to treat colon cancer are TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the drugs used to treat breast cancer in the study.
It might be hard to accept, but we (doctors, scientists, teachers, random people on the street) don't know everything. Science is a continual, ongoing process of revising knowledge methodically over time.
The Telegram article is complete FUD.
Have you considered the possibility that your mother's cancer is just not responding to the treatment (a percent of people do not respond at all)? If not, why did you default to blaming the chemo and NOT the cancer itself? Cancer literally is the unbridled, uncontrolled, malignant reproduction of cells. Chemotherapy is not magic, cancer treatment is not magic, and we have LARGE gaps in our understanding of everything. But what if this FUD turns away even one person whose tumors could have responded to treatment?
BTW: I hated chemo.
NHMike wrote:rachel2017 wrote:NHMike wrote: I've also read that chemo can spread cancer in a recent article - it doesn't spread it itself but the mechanism may make it more likely to spread.
hey, Mike, could you please give me the link of the article you read that says chemo can spread the cancer. My mom is very unlucky and her cancer had been spread aggressively after the chemo. We went to three cancer center and all the drs denied the chemo spread my mom's cancer. I would like to read the article and show the drs. Thanks a lot!
There were a bunch of articles on this this past summer. Here's an example: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... ours-warn/
I didn't search for the original papers on this though.
There's another potential behavior where chemo kills all but the strongest mutations which leaves them more room to grow. That was in a paper on BRAF I think; but I didn't save it.
NHMike wrote:Did you look at Tumor Infiltrating Lymphocytes Therapy at NCI?
rachel2017 wrote:NHMike wrote:Did you look at Tumor Infiltrating Lymphocytes Therapy at NCI?
yep, we did. Since the tumor shrink a little after she had the avastin. We are not qualify for the screening yet.
The cancer behaves weird, I always wonder is there a way she can get the diagnostic from NCI? I wish some doctors can figure out what's happen in her case that can benefit to my mom and other people in future. I called NCI two month ago; however, a lady answered my call said "no".
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