Bloated But Hungry . . .

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jep
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Bloated But Hungry . . .

Postby jep » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:11 am

Hey everyone . . . so my husband has a partial blockage that we are trying to keep at bay . . . he is basically on a liquid diet (smoothies, ensure therapeutics, etc.) . . . Despite the liquid diet, he has been bloated for at least a week . . . he is passing gas and stool, so things are moving, but he thinks they are just moving very slowly . . . do you think this is just the partial blockage slowing things down?? What else can we do to relieve this bloating?
Thank you!!
jep
p.s. he describes his condition as "bloated but hungry" . . . has anyone experienced this and how did you deal/get relief?
Stage IV CC 5/16/17
Loc: recto-sig
Type: Adenocarcinoma
Size: 7.4 cm
Grade: G3
TNM: T3N2M1
LNs: 8/20
BL CEA: .9
LVI: present
Perineural invasion: present
LAR margins: clear (w/in microns)
Folfox (8/17-1/18)
Scope 6/18 - CLEAR! - 2 polyps
PET 10/17/18: 3 pos LNs
Irino + Vecti (11/18)
CEA: 1.7 (2/19)
Xel + rad (5/19)
Surgery: 8/21/19 (aborted)
P1 Trial 10/19 - 12/19
Bypass 12/6/19
Folfox + vecti 1/2/19 - 4/3/20
Kid Fail 5/1/20
Folfiri + Avastin 5/20 - 6/20
bypass 6/29/20
Stivarga 7/18/20 -
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Phuong
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Re: Bloated But Hungry . . .

Postby Phuong » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:57 pm

Partial blockages can definitely slow things down. Has he tried chicken bone broth? Sometimes the fat in something like that can satisfy hunger.
Phuong
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Now Stage IV mCRC

jep
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Re: Bloated But Hungry . . .

Postby jep » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:23 pm

Hey Phuong....thank you for your response....he has not tried chicken bone broth, but he has tried bone marrow broth....he has been getting sick at least once a day for the past 2 days and told me tonight that I may need to take him to the ER tomorrow....I told him that I would take him NOW, but he insisted that he would tell me when he needed to go....I am very concerned but trust his instincts, as he has been through it all....
Praying for everyone right now <3
jep
Stage IV CC 5/16/17
Loc: recto-sig
Type: Adenocarcinoma
Size: 7.4 cm
Grade: G3
TNM: T3N2M1
LNs: 8/20
BL CEA: .9
LVI: present
Perineural invasion: present
LAR margins: clear (w/in microns)
Folfox (8/17-1/18)
Scope 6/18 - CLEAR! - 2 polyps
PET 10/17/18: 3 pos LNs
Irino + Vecti (11/18)
CEA: 1.7 (2/19)
Xel + rad (5/19)
Surgery: 8/21/19 (aborted)
P1 Trial 10/19 - 12/19
Bypass 12/6/19
Folfox + vecti 1/2/19 - 4/3/20
Kid Fail 5/1/20
Folfiri + Avastin 5/20 - 6/20
bypass 6/29/20
Stivarga 7/18/20 -
Home 9/10/20

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CRguy
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Re: Bloated But Hungry . . .

Postby CRguy » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:27 pm

Hey jep
CR here just pulling out some of my training in TCM / Herbal and acupuncture medicine.

Hunger with no will to eat IS a known TCM diagnostic condition.
Spleen Chi deficiency, the "spleen" in TCM being responsible for "transformation and transportation "
there is NO western medical equivalent BUTT .. if things are not being digested and moved along ...... ????

MY point for you now is this :
Yes there are things going on which need to be dealt with = MY choice western medicine / hospitals / xrays / blood tests etc.

BUTT there are also functional changes which do NOT show up on lab tests
e.g. take 1 xray NOW and it all looks good
IF you take 30 xrays over the next 2 hours it may NOT look good.

SO keep the docs looking for a problem AND a cause
Do Not be satisfied until the problem AND solution are in check !!!

Cheers and best wishes
PM/email me anytime
praying right back with you my friend,
with you and hubby on the Journey
CRguy
Caregiver x 4
Stage IV A rectal cancer/lung met
13 Year survivor
my life is an ongoing totally randomized UNcontrolled experiment with N=1 !
Review of my Journey so far

jep
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Re: Bloated But Hungry . . .

Postby jep » Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:43 am

Thank you for that post CRGuy....I didn’t realize how much theory/philosophy is out there regarding the spleen....and how connected it is to so many parts of our body’s functioning....unfortunately I had to bring my husband to the ER this morning....his stomach cramping got a lot worse and he began vomiting....I guess the good news is that I’m now allowed to be here with him and he is more comfortable now....IV fluids, Zofran for the nausea....he’s been able to sleep quite a bit too which is great....waiting to hear from the docs regarding his CT scan...
<3
jep
Stage IV CC 5/16/17
Loc: recto-sig
Type: Adenocarcinoma
Size: 7.4 cm
Grade: G3
TNM: T3N2M1
LNs: 8/20
BL CEA: .9
LVI: present
Perineural invasion: present
LAR margins: clear (w/in microns)
Folfox (8/17-1/18)
Scope 6/18 - CLEAR! - 2 polyps
PET 10/17/18: 3 pos LNs
Irino + Vecti (11/18)
CEA: 1.7 (2/19)
Xel + rad (5/19)
Surgery: 8/21/19 (aborted)
P1 Trial 10/19 - 12/19
Bypass 12/6/19
Folfox + vecti 1/2/19 - 4/3/20
Kid Fail 5/1/20
Folfiri + Avastin 5/20 - 6/20
bypass 6/29/20
Stivarga 7/18/20 -
Home 9/10/20

Lee
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Re: Bloated But Hungry . . .

Postby Lee » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:06 am

I am so sorry for all that your husband has had to go through. If I remember correctly, he was in the hospital not too long ago. I can't offer advice, butt know that you and your husband are in my thoughts and prayers.

I've had a few blockages, not fun at all. The fact that he is passing some gas is good. I hope this currently situation can clear up without an ER visit.

Hugs to you both,

Lee
rectal cancer - April 2004
46 yrs old at diagnoses
stage III C - 6/13 lymph positive
radiation - 6 weeks
surgery - August 2004/hernia repair 2014
permanent colostomy
chemo - FOLFOX
NED - 16 years and counting!


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