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The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:58 am
by Jacques
Here’s a look at the top 10 fattest states in America, according to WalletHub:

#10. Ohio

#9. Delaware

#8. Arkansas

#7. Louisiana

#6. Oklahoma

#5. Alabama

#4. Tennessee

#3. Kentucky

#2. West Virginia

#1. Mississippi

https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-states/16585

... and for comparison, here's the 2007 map of colorectal cancer incidence by state:

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Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:33 pm
by boxhill
Instead of fat-shaming, perhaps one might look into something like the percentage of people who have health insurance (and thus get colonoscopies). Or other factors.

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:52 pm
by Jannine
Adding to Boxhill's comment, colorectal cancer rates within each state vary drastically from county to county. Economic disparities and access to health care are a big factor.

As we all know, obesity is just one risk factor among many. Highlighting obesity isn't any more informative than highlighting the amount of red meat consumed on average in each state.

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:12 pm
by Rock_Robster
Not saying it’s not correct, but I think there’s a pretty strong correlation with median income in those states too. There would seem to be a correlation between income and colorectal cancer rates (fewer screenings, poorer insurance, lifestyle, diet, etc.), so there could be at least one other variable involved here.

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:35 pm
by CRguy
BUTT ..... one also needs to look at the Mississippi river watershed map, which reflects another level of concomitant
correlation, with or without causation ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Miss ... _map_1.jpg
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Who knows, maybe it IS ... something in the water ????
Just sayin'

Cheers all
CRguy

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:11 pm
by Rock_Robster
boxhill wrote:Instead of fat-shaming, perhaps one might look into something like the percentage of people who have health insurance (and thus get colonoscopies). Or other factors.

I don’t see it as fat-shaming; I think Jacques has highlighted a valid and known risk factor for CRC. There are others - red meat consumption, alcohol, diabetes - I wouldn’t say we are ‘shaming’ those people either (I fall into at least 2 of these groups!).

I do think this is also way more complex that one factor of course - eg my comment earlier on income, also geographic access to care, and obviously genetics.

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:23 am
by CRguy
I agree completely buddy and I was certainly NOT making light of the situation.

Geographic exposure to any number of factors may well be a contributing factor to the
epidemiology of CRC incidence in this particular demographic.

Harmony
CRguy

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:40 am
by Rock_Robster
CRguy wrote:I agree completely buddy and I was certainly NOT making light of the situation.

Geographic exposure to any number of factors may well be a contributing factor to the
epidemiology of CRC incidence in this particular demographic.

Harmony
CRguy

I’m with you CRguy and wasn’t suggesting you were making light of it (and even if so, sometimes that’s all we can do!).

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:22 am
by hawkowl
CRguy wrote:Who knows, maybe it IS ... something in the water ????
Just sayin'

Cheers all
CRguy


I have actually seriously wondered if it actually is something in the water. I was living in a rural part of Minnesota when I was diagnosed, and had zero risk factors (thin, athletic, plant-based diet). And two of my neighbors were also diagnosed with CRC at a relatively youn age; both have since died of the disease. All of us drank well water.

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:29 pm
by mobrouser
Is it wise to compare 2019 obesity rates with 2007 CRC rates?

8) mob

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:35 pm
by Beckster
hawkowl wrote:
CRguy wrote:Who knows, maybe it IS ... something in the water ????
Just sayin'

Cheers all
CRguy


I have actually seriously wondered if it actually is something in the water. I was living in a rural part of Minnesota when I was diagnosed, and had zero risk factors (thin, athletic, plant-based diet). And two of my neighbors were also diagnosed with CRC at a relatively youn age; both have since died of the disease. All of us drank well water.


The same thing with the well water in one of our area neighborhood. We had a clothing factory that closed and was sited for dumping the chemicals into the ground. All the homes had well water....in the past 20 years, most of the residents developed cancers....from CRC, brain,lymphoma,bladder...So yes, it makes you wonder if it was the well water. I also lived in a rural area and use to run under the planes when they were dusting the crops. We had well water. My aunt lived next door and both of us developed CRC.

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:20 pm
by CRguy
Rock_Robster wrote:I’m with you CRguy and wasn’t suggesting you were making light of it (and even if so, sometimes that’s all we can do!).

No harm No foul ! I didn't take it that way,
just that with moving from obesity to CRC rates to watersheds .....
I thought I should give my usual disclaimer :shock: :oops:
THIS time I was actually NOT being a smartass ! :mrgreen:

Cheers all
CRguy

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:10 am
by Rock_Robster
CRguy wrote:
Rock_Robster wrote:I’m with you CRguy and wasn’t suggesting you were making light of it (and even if so, sometimes that’s all we can do!).

No harm No foul ! I didn't take it that way,
just that with moving from obesity to CRC rates to watersheds .....
I thought I should give my usual disclaimer :shock: :oops:
THIS time I was actually NOT being a smartass ! :mrgreen:

Cheers all
CRguy

Actually my comment wasn’t even on your post! But anyway I think the watershed theory is fascinating. There does seem to be a clear divide, but I’m not in the US enough to know whether that divide shows up fairly commonly in other areas too (and hence may have another cause), or just in this case.

PS please continue to be a smart ass - I’m Australian and miss that here sometimes :-)

Re: The 10 most obese states in the U.S.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:48 am
by stu
Hi ,
I have noticed people are being quickly closed down from discussing a healthy weight in the UK despite an upward trend . However our departing Chief Medical Officer has stated it’s a future issue that requires attention now to the point of proposing no eating on public transport !
The way I see it , it’s possibly only a factor but one that can at least you can do something about unlike your genetics so why not discuss it in a polite manner . If you at least know some of the contributing factors then you can address them or not as is your choice .

Take care ,
Stu