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Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:57 am
by del5del
I just had my first colonoscopy at 50. To my surprise, doctor removed a 2 cm polyp from my ascending colon. After the procedure he told me he thought it was fine, but large, and would call with pathology results. Doctor called me a day later after I aggravated his office enough and said it came back as a benign tubulovillous adenoma, and I am to return in 2 years for another colonoscopy. I called medical records and got a copy of the final pathology report, hopefully to reassure me, but there's basically nothing to it...half a page, no real detail or description other than my info, doctor's info, Gross Description: the measurement of specimen, how it was received. Microscopic description says "A microscopic examination is performed and reflected in the diagnosis rendered." And the Final Diagnosis is "Colon - Ascending - Fragments of Tubulovillous adenoma D12.2" (which I found out is the code for benign neoplasm of ascending colon) and the date and time that the pathologist electronically signed out. The bottom of the page says page 1 of 1 and the date/time my doctor reviewed and signed the pathology report. I'm not trying to borrow trouble, but I thought it would give more detail such as the dysplasia details, etc. I just can't stop worrying about this. Why isn't this pathology report filled with details?

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:48 pm
by NHMike
It's possible that the entire report wasn't made available to you. I get path reports on my hospital portals but there was one time where the surgeon gave me a few photocopied pages of what was obviously the details of the pathology report - but those pages weren't available to me in the portal.

I know that the CEA tests get embargoed from the portal for at least two days. I've been in the office after getting the bloodwork done earlier, where the oncologist has the results but they don't show up in my portal for a few days. So you could ask your doctor to see if there are any additional details as you'd like to look through them.

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:06 pm
by radnyc
Let it go

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:08 pm
by KimT
You got good news. Every one of us who has been diagnosed with cancer would be very thankful to be in your shoes. I don’t know what else you expected but from what you are describing, that is an appropriate pathology report.

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:14 pm
by betsydoglover
Good news - "just a polyp". Not much detail is needed unless it is cancer. Waiting 2 years for another scope is entirely appropriate - in fact I bet many GI's would put you on the 3-5 year program. Relax - this is something you really don't need to worry about.

Take care,

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:07 pm
by sadysue
What are you complaining about? You got a good report - no cancer. Wish I was so lucky!

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:43 pm
by del5del
I don’t know, I’m sorry. I just feel uneasy...maybe from doing so much research online. I guess I’m afraid that because im only 50 and it was already 2 cm (and on the right side and tubulovillous and sessile) that there may be more to it and maybe he didn’t remove it all completely. And I thought pathology always says whether it’s mild, moderate, or severe dysplasia, which I thought was always present in this type of polyp. Maybe I just don’t understand.

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:52 pm
by weisssoccermom
dysplasia means that there are abnormal cells there. Your pathology report didn't mention anything because there was NOTHING there to mention.
Polyps start as benign growths. Some turn cancerous, some never will.
In your case, the polyp that they found had NOT started the process (if it ever was going to....who knows??) of becoming cancerous.

Seriously, as others have said...LET IT GO!

Your doctor is doing the correct thing and telling you to return in TWO years. The fact that you had a polyp....even a benign one...does put you at greater risk for possibly having more. The COOL thing about getting scoped every two years is that in that timeframe, even IF another polyp arises, it likely won't have time to even turn precancerous!

Remember that polyps typically follow this pathway IF they are going to turn cancerous.

Benign
Precancerous (that's where the dysplasia comes in)
Cancerous


YOU DODGED A BULLET. Be thankful and go out and enjoy your life. Get your scopes when you are supposed to and LET IT GO already!

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:35 am
by kandj
del5del wrote:I don’t know, I’m sorry. I just feel uneasy...maybe from doing so much research online.



May I suggest you stop doing research? Several doctors (your Doc, the pathologist, etc) who have spent their life doing this and have done more real research than you, not just doctor google, are telling you that you had a benign polyp. You should thank your lucky stars, go have a glass of wine and celebrate not having cancer. Most of us would give our right arm to say that or say that about a loved one. You are borrowing trouble and you do not need to be.

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:22 am
by Maggie Nell
del5del wrote:...... I just feel uneasy.... And I thought pathology always says whether it’s mild, moderate, or severe dysplasia, which
I thought was always present in this type of polyp. Maybe I just don’t understand.


From my own experience as a former medical secretary and histopathology transcriptionist, I can confirm that In the state of
Victoria Australia at least, the summary would indicate if dysplasia was mild, moderate or severe. Each pathologist has their own
vernacular and style, each pathology laboratory their own script and protocols with reporting. Clearly whoever did your pathology
report wasn't getting paid by the word! I encourage you to contact your doctor about this as it is a simple matter to request the slides
to be reviewed by another pathologist; even to be sent to another laboratory. You might have to pick up the tab on that though.

Tubulovillous adenomata do have a higher risk of becoming malignant so your concern is warranted. Do what you need for your own peace
of mind.

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:23 am
by DarknessEmbraced
I'm glad it was benign and was removed. :)

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:05 pm
by Basil
Shoooot, I researched my adenocarcinoma like a maniac. At my one year colonoscopy. They removed a couple of polyps but otherwise said I was good to go. I didn’t follow up or ask any questions and haven’t given it a second thought.

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:54 pm
by boxhill
As a side note, be glad that they looked carefully enough to find a right side sessile polyp. That's a type that can be missed fairly often.

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:00 am
by Trying
Wish i was in your shoes. Im only 39 stage 4. We are all wishing for news as good as yours. Wishing you the best

Re: Just can't let it go

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:29 pm
by del5del
I really appreciate everyone’s responses. However, after looking at my medical records closer and doing a little more research, it doesn’t seem to be so black and white, I dont have a peace about this, and I’m not sure where to go from here. First of all, the removal was by a piecemeal technique using a hot snare. I keep reading that many times that turns out to not be a complete resection and there can easily be residual tissue. And the pathologist receives and is examining fragments. So I worry about the margins. Also, in researching the coding, it seems that unless the cancer is invasive, it’s going to be coded as “benign,” even high grade dysplasia and carcinoma insitu and that sometimes the pathologist will only indicate high grade dysplasia if the GI doctor specifically asks for that. This is a huge facility with locations in several states and they have their own pathology lab and I guess it’s all done lecteonically. Not sure if this means that the pathology reports aren’t as detailed. It just has “FINAL DIAGNOSIS: Ascending colon, fragments of tubulovillous adenoma.” And over to the side “D12.2”. It was 2.3 x 1.9 x 0.3 cm. And again, the microscopic description says “a microscopic exam is performed and reflected in the diagnosis rendered.” I called medical records and asked if there was more to the path report and she said no, that’s all. I don’t know if I can even make a follow up appointment with the doctor to discuss all this since the polyp found in screening colonoscopy is diagnosed as benign. Just had the colonoscopy then a phone call from doctor. And I dont know how I would go about getting a second opinion. Now I can’t stop crying and I don’t know how to get complete answers and can’t imagine feeling like this until followup in 2 years. It just seems questionable to me.