Bad MRI results...

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby lpas » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:52 pm

Ugh--so sorry to hear this news. I don't post so much these days but have been following your story. Maia gives excellent advice about immunotherapy. There was another member here (MichelleCairn, maybe?) who applied to the pharmaceutical company's patient assistance program for access to Keytruda. I'd strongly advise looking into this, particularly if you're concerned about your eligibility for a clinical trial. There are a few other Lynch-positive members here who've had amazing success with these drugs and, if I'm recalling correctly, the side effect profile is a LOT better than either FOLFOX or FOLFIRI.

Best of luck! We're all pulling for you to get that surgery.
11/14 Dx sigmoid CC @ 45yo
12/14 Colectomy + hysterectomy
Stage IIIB, T3N1bM0, 2/20 nodes, MSS, G2, KRAS(A146T), TP53, SMAD4, ERBB2, CEA 1.0
2/15-7/15 XELOX & celecoxib
2/19 clean scope
11/19 clean CT
Ongoing cimetidine & other targeted supplements
Mom to a 6 & 8yo

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BeansMama
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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby BeansMama » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:45 pm

WriterGirl1969 wrote:Hey there Mama Beans.
Holding up my sword on your behalf to cut that sticky cancer monster down! I will be praying my most warrior-driven prayers to whip it's sucky cancer butt so that you can have your surgery and get NED! It's okay to feel down. We will do our best to lift you back up on our many hands and hearts, which are with you, behind you and beneath you.
All my love, dear.
Hugs and Prayers,
Tracy


Thank you Tracy, hearing that it grew was devastating. Praying the new cocktail works and starts it in the other direction.
41 yrs old
Tumor found 9/2015
Surgery 1 - 11/2015 LAR and colostomy
Surgery 2 - 11/2015 wound vac
Surgery 3 - 12/2015 revise resection, move colostomy
Mets to liver - tumor inoperable - one add'l met destroyed
Stage IVa (T3 N2a M1a)
Primary tumor 9 cm x 7.5 cm x 2 cm
Beginning Folfox 1/2016 - Failed
Beginning Folfiri and vectibix 8/2016 — Failed
Beginning Folfirinox + Avastin 11/2016 - Failed
Beginning Keytruda 1/2017
CEA drop from 345 to 7.3 after starting immunotherapy
Lynch positive 3/2016

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby Marylandmaniac » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:50 pm

BeansMama wrote:
Marylandmaniac wrote:Wow I am so sorry to hear this. Hopefully this new cocktail will work or you can try immunotherapy. Have you taken turkey tail mushroom? It is a supplement you can buy from Amazon. There are so many good reviews on it and NIH has done trials with it for breast cancer with good results. I take it every day. I am not sure if it is just chemo or if it is chemo plus my supplements but I have responded very well to chemo. I take 4 to 6 grams a day. NIH has shown up to 10 grams is not toxic. My doctor is okay with me taking it.

I wish I could give you a big hug. Sending a virtual hug to you.


Thanks for the hug Maryland, I will have to look into the turkey tail and talk to my onc. I currently don't take any supplements for fear of a reaction with my blood thinner. I really should take the time to research what I can take and what I can't. If anything I would think it would help my body rebound from the chemo better.


Let me know if you doctors approve it. Shoot I will send you a bottle if they okay it. :) My gift to you.
I take D3, turkey tail and cur cucumin BCM-95. These I take every day. I take some things when I do chemo - L glutamine for neuropathy. I read a guy's post on here about fasting during chemo. It made a lot of sense but I am not sure I could do it because I wear the pump for two days. 4 days of nothing but water would be torture for me.
DX 6/29/16 7 cm tumor, 10 cm fr av
CT scan ab,MRI abdomen - 9mm spot on liver,CT scan of chest lungs clear
Special staging MRI - clinical staging stage 3b - T3N2M0 (unless spot proves to be met)
8/11 PET scan - spot lit up not nodes
8/16 Port in, 8/17 liver microwave abltn - spot gone
8/23 6 rds FOLFOX started
PET scan 10-13 43% red of tumor and no mets shown
Exam tumor greatly reduced. Surgery 12-14-16.
Clear margins, 7 out of 13 nodes positive. Tumor 2.1 cm
Kras wild, MMS, not MSI. 6 more rds FOLFOX

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby BeansMama » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:57 pm

Marylandmaniac wrote:
BeansMama wrote:
Marylandmaniac wrote:Wow I am so sorry to hear this. Hopefully this new cocktail will work or you can try immunotherapy. Have you taken turkey tail mushroom? It is a supplement you can buy from Amazon. There are so many good reviews on it and NIH has done trials with it for breast cancer with good results. I take it every day. I am not sure if it is just chemo or if it is chemo plus my supplements but I have responded very well to chemo. I take 4 to 6 grams a day. NIH has shown up to 10 grams is not toxic. My doctor is okay with me taking it.

I wish I could give you a big hug. Sending a virtual hug to you.


Thanks for the hug Maryland, I will have to look into the turkey tail and talk to my onc. I currently don't take any supplements for fear of a reaction with my blood thinner. I really should take the time to research what I can take and what I can't. If anything I would think it would help my body rebound from the chemo better.


Let me know if you doctors approve it. Shoot I will send you a bottle if they okay it. :) My gift to you.
I take D3, turkey tail and cur cucumin BCM-95. These I take every day. I take some things when I do chemo - L glutamine for neuropathy. I read a guy's post on here about fasting during chemo. It made a lot of sense but I am not sure I could do it because I wear the pump for two days. 4 days of nothing but water would be torture for me.


Thank you for the info! I don't think I could fast either. Especially since the put me on dronabinol - the marinol pill. Kind of gives me the munchies, but I suppose that is better than being nauseous.
41 yrs old
Tumor found 9/2015
Surgery 1 - 11/2015 LAR and colostomy
Surgery 2 - 11/2015 wound vac
Surgery 3 - 12/2015 revise resection, move colostomy
Mets to liver - tumor inoperable - one add'l met destroyed
Stage IVa (T3 N2a M1a)
Primary tumor 9 cm x 7.5 cm x 2 cm
Beginning Folfox 1/2016 - Failed
Beginning Folfiri and vectibix 8/2016 — Failed
Beginning Folfirinox + Avastin 11/2016 - Failed
Beginning Keytruda 1/2017
CEA drop from 345 to 7.3 after starting immunotherapy
Lynch positive 3/2016

Lee
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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby Lee » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:04 pm

BeansMama,

(((HUGS))) So sorry to read this latest turn of event. Don't give up the hope and I hope your Dr is successful in another route that will kill those nasty cells to the next universe.

Thinking of you, all the best,

Lee
rectal cancer - April 2004
46 yrs old at diagnoses
stage III C - 6/13 lymph positive
radiation - 6 weeks
surgery - August 2004/hernia repair 2014
permanent colostomy
chemo - FOLFOX
NED - 16 years and counting!

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby mariane » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:31 pm

Beans, I am so sorry. I keep praying for you.
Good Luck!
Last edited by mariane on Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
mom of now 14 years old twins, dx @ 40 in 6/2015 with upper rectal cancer, 10+ liver mets, CEA 140
chemo: 8/2015 - 10/2016 - 4xFOLFIRINOX, 2xFOLFOX, 8xFOLFIRI, 10x5FU, HAI pump -12xFUDR
4 surgeries, complete pathological response
CEA<2 since 10/2015
NED since May 2016

I praise God for every day with my family!

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby testing765 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:40 pm

My thoughts and prayers are with you.
male-age 44 at diagnosis
8/14-clnscopy
8/14-CT scan,no mets
9/14-left colectomy,CEA 2.2 before surgery
pT2pN2bpM0
3 cm tumor in dscnding colon
7/23 pos LNs
low grade MSI stable
10/14-start folfox
1/15-CT & PET scan and sigmdoscopy- no mets
3/15-finish folfox
9/15- clnscopy- 3 polyps removed
10/15- CT scan, NED
10/16- CT scan, NED, CEA 1.6
10/17- clnscopy- 4 polyps removed, CT scan NED, CEA 1.8
10/14 1.9; 4/15 2.8; 5/15 2.4; 9/15 2.8; 12/15 3.1; 1/16 3.0; 4/16 2.5; 7/16 2.5; 10/16 1.6; 1/17 1.9

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby jortego128 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:42 pm

FOLFIRINOX is a tough cocktail. DK37's post on the effects of fasting prior to and during chemo treatment days are extremely intriguing-- please read it if you havent yet, maybe its something that may help you during the treatments.

Also, there were many, many Opdivo/Keytruda/ Atezolizumab trials for MSI high CRC patients just a year ago. I havent looked lately, but please give serious consideration to checking into them.

God bless you and I will pray for your healing. :)
DM 57 yrs old dx 6/8/15 T:4a N:1b M:1
KRAS G12D and TP53 C242fs mutations
Poorly Differentiated, Prominent Signet Ring Component(~50%)
Microsatellite Stable, 3 of (13)lymph nodes positive
15 Liver mets, largest 3.2 cm
Prim. Resection, Right Hemicolectomy 6/21/15
Start Chemo 7/20/15
2 rounds FOLFOX, 1 round FOLFOX +Avastin
CT 8/28/15, met growth, largest 4.5cm
4 rounds FOLFOX+Avastin
CT 11/06/15 mets stable, lungs clear
Begin FOLFIRI+Avastin 11/17/15, Stop chemo 1/26/16
Entered Paradise 3/11/2016

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby Willow.NZ » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:01 am

I truly am sorry that the news is not good right now. With so much to fight for I hope you will respond to the next line of treatment. While there are still options there is always hope...
Dad diagnosed Sept 14 Stage IV. Age 57yrs. Transverse colon - spread to Retroperitoneal, Mesenteric & Supraclavicular lymph nodes. Folfiri commenced Sept 14.
April 15 - Bowel resection
August 15, stable scan
Feb 16 - No signs of cancer on scan...stop chemo & scan in 3 month
Scan April 16, Crazy growth to stomach, lymph nodes & multiple mets to liver. Commencing Folfox.
August: chemo not working. Stopped treatment.
September 3rd 2016 peacefully left this earth.

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby Wonderfullymade » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:52 am

[quote][/quote]Immunotherapy is a good advice as well since you are Lynch positive. Don't give up. You have more than one option.

I would ask about immunotherapy also. I am still not understanding if it is for Lynch or MSI (or if they are even the same thing) but I have had good success with it, my last scan was mixed....but it did eat one of those suckers so I am anxiously waiting my next scan in Dec to see what it has done since August.
I did have first the colon removed and then liver resection but those dang lymph nodes kept popping up so I dont know if they are wanting to resect your liver first or what...
I have been on it a year now and am just starting to have some side effects...
Still keeping you in prayer that your resolution will come quickly!
Wonderfullymade
DX 3/2015 53
Stage IVa CC w/liver met
BRAF/KRAS wild type MSI-High (MLH1, PMS2) not Lynch
Folfox 3 cycles
5/2015 ER for subtotal colectomomy due to perforated colon, ovary removed
Folfuri/Pantiumumab 5 cycles
8/2015 liver resection, gallbladder removed and new LN
10/2015 CT scan new nodes
10/2015 Pembro started CEA 2.2
5/2017 stable lung things, coltis, lymph nodes stable cea 1/2017 1.1
9/2017 NED CEA 1.1 ( stopped Pembro)
2/2019 ER for DVT/ PE
2/2019 clean CT (NED) CEA 1.1

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby BeansMama » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:37 am

Lee wrote:BeansMama,

(((HUGS))) So sorry to read this latest turn of event. Don't give up the hope and I hope your Dr is successful in another route that will kill those nasty cells to the next universe.

Thinking of you, all the best,

Lee


Thank you Lee, I'm not going to stop fighting, I'm hoping this new cocktail makes it shrink so I can have the surgery. I'm still hoping for surgery.
41 yrs old
Tumor found 9/2015
Surgery 1 - 11/2015 LAR and colostomy
Surgery 2 - 11/2015 wound vac
Surgery 3 - 12/2015 revise resection, move colostomy
Mets to liver - tumor inoperable - one add'l met destroyed
Stage IVa (T3 N2a M1a)
Primary tumor 9 cm x 7.5 cm x 2 cm
Beginning Folfox 1/2016 - Failed
Beginning Folfiri and vectibix 8/2016 — Failed
Beginning Folfirinox + Avastin 11/2016 - Failed
Beginning Keytruda 1/2017
CEA drop from 345 to 7.3 after starting immunotherapy
Lynch positive 3/2016

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby dudette » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:42 pm

Fudge!

Not sure if this was already brought up, but could you try TACE, SIRT or some other chemo embolisation of the liver to get the fricking thing to shrink? It seems that systemic approaches fall on deaf ears with your cancer - just thought this because you had no response to Cetuximab and Folfiri - so maybe local treatment is worth a try?! Just throwing around ideas because I am rooting for you to have this surgery.

Bon courage!
Temi
Dx 03/2015 @ age 41 - CC stage IV - pT3 N2b (14/29) cM1 (hep) L1 V1 Pn1 R1
Wild K-RAS, N-RAS, BRAF / MSS
unresectable mets liver 60% + lungs
Surgery
04/15 - sigmoid resect.
07/16 - hysterectomy (ovaries)
Chemo
05-06/15 - 4 x Folfirinox
12/15 - 02/16 4 x Xeliri + Avastin
03-05/16 9 x Xeloda
09-12/16 Folfiri + Cetuximab
01/2017 - metronomic chemo + methadone
July 20, 2107 - Temi has passed away.

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby Yolanda » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:54 pm

So sorry to hear it! It is so frustrating to not be able to just power through and leave it behind! Putting plans and life on hold yet another week, month, who knows? I hope for you this new treatment is a raving success!
-Yolanda
dx colorectal cancer FE2016
emergency colostomy MR2016
Major surgery removing everything from perineum to stoma to remove tumour with. total hysterectomy including ovaries.
Perineal and pelvic floor rebuild with VRAM flap AU2016 (put my stomach where my butt used to be)
IV sub dermal Port installed NO2016
Currently in follow-up FOLFOX.
Colostomy is permanent. I just turned 53, but have an energetic lifestyle.

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby BeansMama » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:42 pm

mariane wrote:Beans, I am so sorry. I keep praying for you.

I started chemo with FOLFIRINOX and got the 50% shrinkage after just 3 treatments. I wish you the best response ever. Walking helped me a lot surviving this tough chemo. I used to walk even with the 5FU pump. You will survive it. You are young and strong. There will be hard days. After my 4th FOLFINOX treatment I felt to tired to climb the stairs to my kids room to prepare clothes for them for the next school day but by the end of the chemo week I felt relatively back to my normal self.

Are you getting EMEND for your nausea? It helped me a lot.

With FOLFIRINOX you will need the regular Neupogen shots. I did Monday, Wednesday and Friday on the next week after chemo. It is very important to receive treatments regularly. No chemo breaks to get the best possible response so watch your WBC and platelets numbers carefully, please. I even checked my numbers on Friday before Monday chemo to be sure I will receive it every two weeks without any delay. No delays to get the resection.

I also ate eggs as I wrote you sometime ago. It helped keeping protein level in order and quickly rebounce after chemo. Dry prunes usually helped me to resolve my constipation. I had usually constipation during the first week and then run to the can.

Immunotherapy is a good advice as well since you are Lynch positive. Don't give up. You have more than one option.

Good Luck!



Thank you for the information Mariane!

I am getting Emend on infusion days, nausea has just been particularly bad for me. My onc wants me to do 7 Neupogen shots after the round so that is what i will do. My platelets are pretty low but I don't know how to get them back up.
41 yrs old
Tumor found 9/2015
Surgery 1 - 11/2015 LAR and colostomy
Surgery 2 - 11/2015 wound vac
Surgery 3 - 12/2015 revise resection, move colostomy
Mets to liver - tumor inoperable - one add'l met destroyed
Stage IVa (T3 N2a M1a)
Primary tumor 9 cm x 7.5 cm x 2 cm
Beginning Folfox 1/2016 - Failed
Beginning Folfiri and vectibix 8/2016 — Failed
Beginning Folfirinox + Avastin 11/2016 - Failed
Beginning Keytruda 1/2017
CEA drop from 345 to 7.3 after starting immunotherapy
Lynch positive 3/2016

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Re: Bad MRI results...

Postby BeansMama » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:43 pm

testing765 wrote:My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Thank you.
41 yrs old
Tumor found 9/2015
Surgery 1 - 11/2015 LAR and colostomy
Surgery 2 - 11/2015 wound vac
Surgery 3 - 12/2015 revise resection, move colostomy
Mets to liver - tumor inoperable - one add'l met destroyed
Stage IVa (T3 N2a M1a)
Primary tumor 9 cm x 7.5 cm x 2 cm
Beginning Folfox 1/2016 - Failed
Beginning Folfiri and vectibix 8/2016 — Failed
Beginning Folfirinox + Avastin 11/2016 - Failed
Beginning Keytruda 1/2017
CEA drop from 345 to 7.3 after starting immunotherapy
Lynch positive 3/2016


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