Ending FOLFIRI, starting vinorelbine

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H is for Hawk
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Ending FOLFIRI, starting vinorelbine

Postby H is for Hawk » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:23 pm

Unfortunately, I had disease progression in my liver with two new tumors following 5 cycles of FOLFIRI, so I am now trying something novel, off-label use of vinorelbine. I had my first infusion today of vinorelbine, an FDA approved drug to treat lung cancer. This was brought up with the article " A Vulnerability of a Subset of Colon Cancers with Potential Clinical Utility". This Cell magazine article talks about the the specific defect of V600E BRAF cells in microtube formation unveiled a potential vulnerability of such tumors to microtube disrupting agents like vinorelbine. The pre-clinical analysis in mouse and in-vitro studies conclude that BRAF cells are more sensitive to vinorelbine and that the toxicity is due to mitotic arrest followed by apoptosis. More over, the data suggest the liver metastises of BRAF colon cancer respond to vinorelbine therapy. There is a current clinical trial with European investigational sites. The dosing schedule is 3 weeks on (1 infusion per week), 1 week off. I am appealing the use with my insurance company, but I am not optimistic they will approve. The self pay option may not be too out of reach, as the cost of generic vinorelbine is modest at about $50 / dose.

So treatment options for BRAF CRC patients include FOLFOXIRI, triplet targeted chemotherapy (Vectibex, Tafinlar, Mekinist), vinorelbine, and the new MD Anderson protocol of Vemurafinab (melanoma BRAF inhibitor) combined with CRC-approved irinotecan + Erbitux.

I have also completed four cycles of ten-pass auto major hemotherapy (Ozone therapy) and don't have any radiographic results about the therapeutic effect. I plan on doing another four cycles of ozone therapy, then evaluating the results from a CT scan.
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H is for Hawk (57)
10/14 L. hemi-colectomy 3 x 4 x 1 cm tumor, 13/14 lymph nodes pos. pT4a N2B M0 stage 3 MSS
11/14 - 4/15 12x FOLFOX
5/15 PET scan: 2.5 x 1.5 cm l. colon lesion, peri surface lesion SUV 2.4, adenocar., KRAS wd, BRAF V600E mut
6/15 HIPEC
9/15 Pleural lining & liver mets, CA 19-9: 6000
10/15 Vectibix Tafinlar Mekinist
11/15 1500
1/16 200
2/16 100, add Lentinan
3/16 122
6/16 4500
7/16 20,000, CT scan - three new liver mets
8/16 6700, FOLFIRI
9/16 4900, CT scan - two new liver mets
10/16 2255 vinorelbine

lpas
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Re: Ending FOLFIRI, starting vinorelbine

Postby lpas » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:44 am

Thanks for the update, Hawk. I don't recall seeing previous posts here about vinorelbine. This is great info for other BRAF folks to have.

Will be anxious to hear what your scans reveal about the 10 pass therapy, although it sounds like it could be challenging to differentiate between effects resulting from the ozone therapy vs chemo? Either way, wishing you the best.
11/14 Dx sigmoid CC @ 45yo
12/14 Colectomy + hysterectomy
Stage IIIB, T3N1bM0, 2/20 nodes, MSS, G2, KRAS(A146T), TP53, SMAD4, ERBB2, CEA 1.0
2/15-7/15 XELOX & celecoxib
2/19 clean scope
11/19 clean CT
Ongoing cimetidine & other targeted supplements
Mom to a 6 & 8yo

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Re: Ending FOLFIRI, starting vinorelbine

Postby H is for Hawk » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:20 pm

lpas,

I agree with you, it would have easier to determine the therapeutic value if my vinorelbine chemotherapy and ozone therapy were done sequentially, but for most stage 4 patients, there is not enough time to allow this. You have do as many conventional and alternative treatments at the same time, as your body can tolerate.
H is for Hawk (57)
10/14 L. hemi-colectomy 3 x 4 x 1 cm tumor, 13/14 lymph nodes pos. pT4a N2B M0 stage 3 MSS
11/14 - 4/15 12x FOLFOX
5/15 PET scan: 2.5 x 1.5 cm l. colon lesion, peri surface lesion SUV 2.4, adenocar., KRAS wd, BRAF V600E mut
6/15 HIPEC
9/15 Pleural lining & liver mets, CA 19-9: 6000
10/15 Vectibix Tafinlar Mekinist
11/15 1500
1/16 200
2/16 100, add Lentinan
3/16 122
6/16 4500
7/16 20,000, CT scan - three new liver mets
8/16 6700, FOLFIRI
9/16 4900, CT scan - two new liver mets
10/16 2255 vinorelbine

stu
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Re: Ending FOLFIRI, starting vinorelbine

Postby stu » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:54 pm

Hi,
I just want to wish you all the very best and hope you gain significant shrinkage.
Thinking of you,
Stu
supporter to my mum who lives a great life despite a difficult diagnosis
stage4 2009 significant spread to liver
2010 colon /liver resection
chemo following recurrence
73% of liver removed
enjoying life treatment free
2016 lung resection
Oct 2017 nice clear scan . Two lung nodules disappeared
Oct 2018. Another clear scan .

lpas
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Re: Ending FOLFIRI, starting vinorelbine

Postby lpas » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:12 pm

H is for Hawk wrote:lpas,

I agree with you, it would have easier to determine the therapeutic value if my vinorelbine chemotherapy and ozone therapy were done sequentially, but for most stage 4 patients, there is not enough time to allow this. You have do as many conventional and alternative treatments at the same time, as your body can tolerate.


Completely agree. Didn't mean to sound like I was being critical--just an observation.

Again, best of luck! I hope you'll continue to keep us posted.
11/14 Dx sigmoid CC @ 45yo
12/14 Colectomy + hysterectomy
Stage IIIB, T3N1bM0, 2/20 nodes, MSS, G2, KRAS(A146T), TP53, SMAD4, ERBB2, CEA 1.0
2/15-7/15 XELOX & celecoxib
2/19 clean scope
11/19 clean CT
Ongoing cimetidine & other targeted supplements
Mom to a 6 & 8yo

jortego128
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Re: Ending FOLFIRI, starting vinorelbine

Postby jortego128 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:23 pm

Good to see you still fighting, trying novel approaches Hawk. Your CEA appears to be on a downswing in your sig, not a bad thing I guess! I hope this has some good effects on you. Did you go through with seeing John of God / Joao de Deus ? If so, how was the experience?
DM 57 yrs old dx 6/8/15 T:4a N:1b M:1
KRAS G12D and TP53 C242fs mutations
Poorly Differentiated, Prominent Signet Ring Component(~50%)
Microsatellite Stable, 3 of (13)lymph nodes positive
15 Liver mets, largest 3.2 cm
Prim. Resection, Right Hemicolectomy 6/21/15
Start Chemo 7/20/15
2 rounds FOLFOX, 1 round FOLFOX +Avastin
CT 8/28/15, met growth, largest 4.5cm
4 rounds FOLFOX+Avastin
CT 11/06/15 mets stable, lungs clear
Begin FOLFIRI+Avastin 11/17/15, Stop chemo 1/26/16
Entered Paradise 3/11/2016


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