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MSJC
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Re: No sugar??

Postby MSJC » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:46 pm

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm going for supper at Vilca's house!
Mike, 49 y/o at Dx 1/14 stage 3c
low rectal cancer 7 nodes positive
2/14 5 weeks chemo/rad. 5-fu
4/14 Lar gallbladder removed,
temp ileostomy
5/14 8 rds Folfox
10/14 reversal surgery
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Delinda2
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Re: No sugar??

Postby Delinda2 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:09 pm

Will meet you there, I'll bring the wine. XXOXO, Delinda
63 yrs,wife & mom
4/14 dx colon cancer,3C,9/22 nodes
Lymphatic,venous,&perineural invasion
<1cm margin,poorly differentiated
6/14 colostomy take down
7/14 FOLFOX w/9 Nulasta shots
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6/16 surgery-rescection on sigmoid, total hysterectomy, temp ileo, stage 4
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Re: No sugar??

Postby Maggie Nell » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:54 am

One of the ideas that circulate among proponents of alternative therapy for cancer is that cancer thrives on sugar and because of this, cancer can be starved to death by avoiding to eat sugar.

It is claimed that the idea is backed up by hard core science – the Warburg effect, which landed the discoverer the Nobel Prize.

Today we know and understand that things are more complicated than that.

In this post we will attempt to simplify the biochemistry/physiology involved and explain why the idea of a sugar depleted diet as cancer treatment doesn’t work in the real world....

........we will focus on glucose, because glucose metabolism is what the cancer-feeds-on-sugar myth is about.


https://anaximperator.wordpress.com/201 ... ncer-cure/


Honour your cravings is all I am goanna say!
DX April 2015, @ 54
35mm poorly diff. tumour, incidental finding following emergency R. hemicolectomy
for ileo-colic intussusception.
Lymph nodes: 0/22
T3 N0 MX
Stage II CRC, no adjuvant chemo required.
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Annemiek
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Re: No sugar??

Postby Annemiek » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:45 am

I think going to Vilca for supper is an excellent idea, I'll bring the cake! ( brown sugar)!!
Is there a recepy thread somewhere? To put all healthy and naughty treats?

43 yr mum of a girl aged 7
10/2014 coloncancer stage IIIc
11/2014 HIPEC, tumor removed + 12 positive out of 60 ln
hysterectomy, abdominal lining partly removed
Peridonitus, stoma fitted, 6 abcesses drained in abdomen
MSS, kras
3/2015 Folfox, someones playing kill Bill inside me
9/2015 finished 12 rounds,
First scan results: NED!!!!!!!!!
4/2016 ct scan: NED!!!
7/2016 ultrasound: NED
10/2016 cr scan: NED
5/2017 ultrasound: NED 2,5 yrs!
CEA 8/2017 1.8 stable.
CT scan 11/2017 NED! 3 yrs
CEA 1.9
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Re: No sugar??

Postby LeonW » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:28 am

Mydogphoebe wrote:One of the ideas that circulate among proponents of alternative therapy for cancer is that cancer thrives on sugar and because of this, cancer can be starved to death by avoiding to eat sugar.


The link that Mydogphoebe [what's in a name :roll: / :) ] gave, reviews some of the research into the effectiveness of this therapy for the treatment of cancer.
For those of us who don't read the full article, these are the main conclusions:
  • Cells don’t distinguish between glucose (a sugar) from different sources
  • Large amounts of glucose are often – but not always – used by cancer cells
  • Large amounts of glucose are sometimes used by normal cells

    Consequently, a sugar depleted diet is not a cure for cancer

Which doesn't disqualify the importance of the the Warburg effect that was rewarded with the Nobel Prize and is so effectively used in PET-scanning to light up cancer cells.
But as a cure for cancer it has not demonstrated to be effective.

Thus, ladies and gents, enjoy your Oregon festivities. NO need to be scant on sweeties and cakes.

Leon
envious / graduated from UofO (Eugene) many moons ago
Dec 2012 - CC 2 unresect liver mets, CEA 41.8 (MM 65yrs)
Jan 2013 - colectomy @ spleen 2/26 nodes IVa T3N1bM1a
Feb-Jul - 1x Xelox-7x Xelox/Avastin, shrinkage from #3
Aug - 2x PV embolization (both failed)
Sep 2013 - R liver resect, 25d hosp (liver failure/delirium, lung emboli, encephalopathy), no living cancer (pCR)
2014/15 - recovery, scopy: 2 polyps
2016 - new town/life
2018, scopy: 2 polyps
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Re: No sugar??

Postby MSJC » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:36 am

Be careful Annemiek, mentioning naughty treats could start an avalanche of ideas on it's own! :D
Mike, 49 y/o at Dx 1/14 stage 3c
low rectal cancer 7 nodes positive
2/14 5 weeks chemo/rad. 5-fu
4/14 Lar gallbladder removed,
temp ileostomy
5/14 8 rds Folfox
10/14 reversal surgery
5/15 clean colonoscopy
6/15 clean ct scan
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Re: No sugar??

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:57 am

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Annemiek
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Re: No sugar??

Postby Annemiek » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:16 am

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43 yr mum of a girl aged 7
10/2014 coloncancer stage IIIc
11/2014 HIPEC, tumor removed + 12 positive out of 60 ln
hysterectomy, abdominal lining partly removed
Peridonitus, stoma fitted, 6 abcesses drained in abdomen
MSS, kras
3/2015 Folfox, someones playing kill Bill inside me
9/2015 finished 12 rounds,
First scan results: NED!!!!!!!!!
4/2016 ct scan: NED!!!
7/2016 ultrasound: NED
10/2016 cr scan: NED
5/2017 ultrasound: NED 2,5 yrs!
CEA 8/2017 1.8 stable.
CT scan 11/2017 NED! 3 yrs
CEA 1.9
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Carolinabluetec
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Re: No sugar??

Postby Carolinabluetec » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:37 am

I prefer my sugar converted to its most noble form. Alcohol :mrgreen:
03/14 DX Adenocarcinoma Sigmoid Polyp
05/14 Da Vinci Sigmoid Colectomy
06/14 T3N0Mx, staged IIa
07/14 Xeloda 3000 mg/day 14 on/7 off 8 rounds
12/14 Finished Chemo
01/15 CT NED :D
07/15 Colonoscopy NED :D
08/15 CT NED :D
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Re: No sugar??

Postby bitchslapped » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:15 am

You ever notice @ gatherings, the women are hanging around the food & the men hanging around the booze? :lol:
DSS,35YO,unresect mCRC DX 7/'14,lvr,LN,peri,rib
FOLFOX+Avstn 4 Rnds d/c 10/'14
Stent 9/'14
FOLFIRI+Avstn 10/'14
Gone From My Sight 2/20/15
Me:garden variety polyps + precancerous polyp, diverticulitis
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Re: No sugar??

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:16 pm

Carolinabluetec wrote:I prefer my sugar converted to its most noble form. Alcohol :mrgreen:


Agree 110%
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Re: No sugar??

Postby NZJay » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:33 pm

bitchslapped wrote:You ever notice @ gatherings, the women are hanging around the food & the men hanging around the booze? :lol:


You've clearly been associating with the wrong kinda women.
11-13 Dx CC
SPS T4b(touched stomach organ),N1(3/23),M0(Stage 3B)
11-13: resect + partial gastrect
2-14: 1 Tx Cape + Oxy; renal failure, colitis
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7-15: clear scope
1-16: clear CT
3-17: clear CT
10-17: clear scope (5 year gap now!)
CEA@dx: 8.4 / 6-15: 4.0 / 10-15: 4.2 / 2-16: 4.9 / 7-16: 4.9 / 11-16: 5.0 / 6-17: 4.5
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Re: No sugar??

Postby MSJC » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:58 pm

When I was first diagnosed, some friends baked a cake and brought it by our house, it probably didn't help with the cancer... but damn it was goooood! Cupcakes and cakes, Oh my!! I usually prefer my sugar in it's purest form... Chocolate! :lol:
Mike, 49 y/o at Dx 1/14 stage 3c
low rectal cancer 7 nodes positive
2/14 5 weeks chemo/rad. 5-fu
4/14 Lar gallbladder removed,
temp ileostomy
5/14 8 rds Folfox
10/14 reversal surgery
5/15 clean colonoscopy
6/15 clean ct scan
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Maim
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Re: No sugar??

Postby Maim » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:22 pm

The third time cancer came back, I swung a deal with the cancer gods: OK, no sugar. I was pure. I was righteous. I read all the articles. I challenged my doctors. And then it came back in the lungs, and a few lymph nodes have grown since my last scan. So for me today, life's way too short not to imbibe in the sweet stuff. Bring it.
Mom, wife, teacher, crafter, gardener, knitter, photographer
My cup is 1/2 full
Surgeries: 3
Radiation: oodles
Chemo Cycles: bunches
Currently: Avastin/Xeloda
mCRC
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Maggie Nell
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Re: No sugar??

Postby Maggie Nell » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:03 am

For the recreational 100s & 1000s addict - Fairy Bread Wheels. White bread, butter, light sprinkles of 100s & 1000s


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For the serious user - Nutella Fairy Bread.

•2 Bread slices
•3 Tbsp Nutella
•1⁄2 Cup (8 tbs) 100s & 1000s

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DX April 2015, @ 54
35mm poorly diff. tumour, incidental finding following emergency R. hemicolectomy
for ileo-colic intussusception.
Lymph nodes: 0/22
T3 N0 MX
Stage II CRC, no adjuvant chemo required.
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