The Colon Club

Found out December 17 that DH had a tumor; Dec.18 hospitalized due to colon perforation; supposed to have surgery to remove parts of colon & bladder Dec. 22nd, but could not be done as too massive and more invasive than expected; chemo started end of January (26th?). 4 treatments Folfox, neuropathy was getting pretty bad, so was switched to FOLFIRI, Avastin added. Hubs is 44; we have 5 kids ages 19, 17, 10, 4, and 1. I was handling things ok at first, but these last couple of weeks I can't hold it together very well. Dr has not ever said anything like --number of months, just things like, "It's not good, but we want to fight it;" "I'm not going to bet against anyone;" and a surgeon said dh "won't be going back to work" when asked how long till he could return. Hubs acts like he's going to be healed over the next year. Is it better for him to keep his delusions? Feel like I'm slowly drowning...

Oh I have been there with my son, not husband.
My only advice to you is live for today. Do fun things, spend time as a family. On good days try to get away and be together. If he rebounds then think about work. Plan for the future because that helps the patient be positive.
Ask the Dr what he thinks without your DH in the room. Get second opinion on what the Dr says. And even with this information Drs can be wrong-do not take life timeline too seriously because it can be wrong.
Take family portrait. Take a trip if you can.
And for you my dear, take time for yourself NOW. You are definitely in need of that. Go for a walk everyday, go out with girlfriends once in a while. Unfortunately caretakers have it hard, the patients life is hard, the family life is hard. I am so sorry you are going through this.

Hugs

A question for you before I write more: what level of info do you want? Taking some time to get used to your new and devastating situation may be good; knowing all the facts as soon as you can get them may be what is right for you.

So very sorry you and your family are here.

While December 17th may seem like a long time to you as you care for your husband, that is a relatively short time frame in the grand scheme of things. Cancer fighting is a marathon, you'll have your ups and downs but the first several months are the hardest. Stay strong and please send us some more details about your husbands current situation so we can provide additional support and advice.

Best,
Rob

Sorry you too are dealing with this.

As Rob said, the first months are the hardest.

We have three kids, 17, 15 and 3 and my husband was diagnosed 2 and a half years ago, stage 4. I remember how strange and difficult things were. Still are, but it's just kind of our life now. But it still feels strange when he's feeling lousy and not wanting to do anything, but as you know with a houseful of kids...life does not slow down.

I've let my husband decide how much he wants to know and one of the first questions he asked the doctor was how long he had. I cringed at that but it's his diagnosis not mine. For what it's worth, he should be gone by now. Doc was wrong.

Personally I don't see the downside of having him think he will be cured in a year..it does happen. My husband has continued to work and I think that has been really good for him.

Some initial questions:

1. Initial CEA?
2. CEA after 4 treatments?
3. PET Scan results after 3 treatments
4. Stage, and which organs affected and resectability.
5. Is your DH being seen in Top 20 hospitals, or any ones below are close by?
(http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/rankings/cancer)

Doctors get it wrong more often than you know.
They gave me 6 months. That was over 5 1/2 years ago! I was the poster boy for what NOT to do if you get cancer. Here I am still still on the
road full time in my RV.
He may rebound and prove everyone wrong, just like I am doing now !!

Hey frenchie...my moms doctors got it wrong by almost thirty years! Not cancer but still...they gave her six months to live close to 30 yrs ago. She too was a poster child for what not to do..smoked, ate crap, didn't exercise. But she was the kindest person you could meet.

Exaussie, I am so sorry about your son.

Thank you all for your kind words, condolences, and for taking the time to respond.

To answers the questions:
I would like whatever info there is; I've been researching like crazy since we found out. I think it helps me to be as prepared mentally as I possibly can.

Initial CEA before surgery was 12. After 4 treatments was either 54 or 45 (this after having gone up to 81). No PET scan - insurance denied doc's first request for PET scan before starting chemo; doc just had CT done after fourth chemo before starting Avastin & said it showed 'mild response.' Stage 4 due to its extreme 'local' advancement - through bowel & bladder w/perforations, into the abdominal wall. No, we are not at or near any of those hospitals; DH does not want to go anywhere else.

Currently also diabetic due to the steroids given with the chemo.

Forgot to add, they did do a colostomy in December when they weren't able to remove tumor because it would at some point cause a blockage.

Please take care of you! More difficult to do than say, but so important. As the patient, I would love to just have my DH nearby all the time. But, I realize he needs to do things for himself; read, go for bike rides, etc. Only by maintaining his own sanity can he be there for me when I really need him.

What you have described is a very exorbitant set of circumstances. I know I'm not able to offer advice, and I doubt most on this board could help you better, than your medical team. I hope things settle down, although it seems your husband has a better grasp, as to his wishes. All you can do is ride it out, and see how the cards turn. There are many who can help you around here,but relying on your medical team, and being there to listen to them, is your best bet. I know there was a place in my brain that refused to hear what the doctors were saying. Sometimes it really helps to have a co- listener, who takes notes.
Regards,
Michael

Hi,
Well like many others I have my own opinions but Justin Case is right, you need a candid talk with the Medical team.
But remember no matter the report of the Doctors everyone is difference, there are exceptions to the rules like Frenchie.
But having been a care giver to my Dear Husband it's very true that we forget about out own needs, so please look after yourself and be strong, like others have said Cancer is not a sprint but rather a Marathon so pace yourself.
Much Love and Kisses from London

(((hugs))) to you. Take the time for you that you need so you can be there for your DH and kids. Its not selfish at all. It truly is loving because you will the be able to do more for your DH as a result.