New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

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New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby Nickmark59 » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:55 pm

Has any one seen that new CDC anti smoking commercial with the women holding up the colostomy bag and yelling in the end smoking causes colon cancer . Think its over the line inaccurate and does more harm than good there are plenty of us who never smoked and did not eat red meat :x :x :x :x :x
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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby robinkaye » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:01 pm

I saw it and thought it was disgusting. Setting aside they were blaming smoking which hasn't been proven as a cause of crc, it made the colostomy bag a punishment, something to be ridiculed.
There are a lot of people alive today because there is such thing as a colostomy. Not to mention the many with crohns or IBS that have colostomies enabling them to lead a normal life. Yep...way over the top.
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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby elise » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:49 pm

I signed a petition to have the ad taken down. Terrible what they did. :x

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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby GrouseMan » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:31 pm

Actually I think you might want to look at this link before flat out saying smoking is not a risk factor for colon cancer. It is and its been known for some time. This is the latest study I could find See:

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer- ... sk-factors

Http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/18/12/3362.long

The aim of these public service messages are to Shock! I can tell you from experience, there are plenty of people that would rather die, than have a permanent colonostomy. My great aunt who did not have cancer but a very bad c-dif infection gave up and let herself go rather than live with one when they wanted to remove the infectious area. It likely would have been temporary I would have thought but none the less, she refused, gave up and let go. Mind you she was in her early 90s and had led a pretty full life. A few years before she had fallen an broke her leg below the hip joint. She bounced back from that very quickly hardly slowed her down.. She was a tough old girl.

Again, there are also a lot of people that would rather not think about it than get scoped! My wife was one. It was too distasteful to think about until she had no choice. Afterwards she could kick herself for not having done it when she was supposed. To in the first place. It wasn't nearly as bad as she and like a large number of people are led to believe.

If this PSA shocks a few hundred or more people into quitting smoking by relating it to one of the most distasteful things they already imagine, all the better. Seems the one with the woman, missing a part of her jaw, no larnx, no hair Didn't seem to do enough. People still smoking..... Smoking introduces all sorts of nasty things into your body, and it doesn't just stop at the lungs. All sorts of damage can accrue from it as the levels of all sorts of molecules from the tars produced, enter your blood stream. Smokers and chewing tobacco users have all sorts of nasties enter their digestive track due to all that smoky saliva they swallow. Or from chew... I don't see them necessarily equating a colostomy to punishment. More that smoking increases your risk for CRC, and you might end up with one of these if you don't quit. Be honest, most of you until you got yours and learned to deal with it, likely thought it was the most terribly indignate thing one could do to you. But you learned to live with it. Let's face it fear motivates people much more than rational argument.

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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby Nik Colon » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:23 am

Yep, pissed alot of people off. I hate when they make these insensitive and Ill informed commercials! Grrr!

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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby Jachut » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:18 am

I'd rather have a colostomy bag than a smokers teeth :wink:

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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby debb » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:53 am

I think the purpose of these ads are to shock people who smoke. And there are links to smoking and CRC. I've also read about links to CRC from second hand smoke. So as a never-smoked-a-puff in my life person, I applaud any tactic to get smokers to stop. Wearing a bag isn't the worse thing that can happen to a person...but it (often) isn't the best thing.
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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby JJ2212 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:46 am

Yeah, that commercial pissed me off.

Scare tactics and shock value in anti-smoking ads aren't new, so I can handle that. What pissed me off was portraying someone with a colostomy as being forced to cut off ties and stay indoors for the better part of a year, in case she 'smelled'. It's unecessary and potentially damaging to future ostomates who see this ad.

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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby KWT » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:50 am

In whose life is this even important?

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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby drebay » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:02 pm

I yelled at the TV the first time I saw it. I was the only one in a family of six who DIDN'T smoke, and I got Cancer. I agree that smoking is bad, and the link is there, but it just rubbed me the wrong way for some reason.
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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby HannaandJuliansMom » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:11 pm

If the CDC was serious about battling CRC they should call for earlier screening (either via poop test or colonoscopies by the age of 40) but I guess that would be too much financial strain on the insurance companies :x
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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby Valorie » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:24 pm

Never even tried smoking - still got colon cancer.
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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby Nik Colon » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:44 pm

HannaandJuliansMom wrote:If the CDC was serious about battling CRC they should call for earlier screening (either via poop test or colonoscopies by the age of 40) but I guess that would be too much financial strain on the insurance companies :x

40 isn't young enough, people are starting to get it in their 20s and the number of young people keeps increasing and is expected to do so even more in the future

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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby Carolinabluetec » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:32 pm

It is a well known fact that all of the ills and evil in the Universe is rooted in the use of the devil's weed. Upon that cheery note, I think I will go outside and have a cigarette. :shock:
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Re: New CDC anti smoking commercail and colosomy bag :(

Postby stephenlamb » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:49 pm

Commercial pissess me off! That is all
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