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very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby sdp » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:50 pm

Had SIRT Feb 2015

Two weeks later it is twice

What next ?
Dx sig CC/ liver mets stg4 dec/11
10 cyc FOLFOX+Erb
Resect CC And Liver July-Aug/12
2 cyc - FOLFOX+Erb
Erb only -Nov/12-mar/13
iRE to 2 liver met Oct 13
2nd recur Mar 14
Liver resect April '14
3rd recur -july '14
Microwave ablation-2 liver met- July '14

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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby vilca11 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:13 pm

Very sorry to hear that.... You did it all, from your signature.... and it seems like the more you are after it, the more it is after you... I do not see any other way than keep removing surgically what is pupping up (if possible) and do Xeloda with Celebrex, to delay the mets appearance and minimize quantity /locations.... Take good PSK, Bio-Curcumin, Genistein and Maitake supplements (from Life Extension Foundation) to help the Xeloda., if you can get them to India.... If not, just take as much Tumeric as possible with fats and black pepper and get Vit C infusions, largest doses you can obtain from the providers ....

It hurts to read your journey, my heart is going out to you, hang in as strong as you can and no fear (read Osho to lose the fear).... Do not disappear and let us know what is going on, sweetheart....
Big cyber hug to you.... Vilca
11/2005 CC stage 1, F,50yo@dx
Mod dif adenocar, MSS, APC, TP53, CEAs1.6-4.8
1/12 1met liver@Vena Cava, RFA, 3oxi,11 5FU
8/13 2 mets same place,SBRT
4/14 2 Xeliri+Avastin
5/14 Nano Knife liver same 2 mets
6/14 2 Xeliri, ADAPT
4/15 PET, 2 same mets,Cryo Liver
5/15 MJ Oil, Herbs, Suppl, ADAPT
10/15 PET, same area, doubled in size, high SUV
10/15 RH, HAI, visceral involv., no LN
2/16 red FF, 50% red dose FUDR, CEA trends up
3/16 CT, PET, MRI L.Lobe all in small tumors
4/16 No acceptable options, going home

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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby Voxx66 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:14 pm

This is expected. Any damage to the liver can increase CEA. Hopefully it will now start to decline.
DX and resect 10/2012 age 46
Stage IIa CRC
liver mets both lobes 8/2013
CEA 28
FOLFOX + Avastin 8/26/13 3 rounds
Folfox only 3 rds + rd 8
platelets low round 7,9,10 5FU only
1/14 CEA 1.0 y90
5fu
10/14 mets lung and peri
1/15 Folfiri

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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby vilca11 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:42 pm

Your right, Voxx, it is expected after any liver intervention, it is kinda early to worry much about it....But I do not like that marker has doubled and the pattern in sdp signature shows fast re-occurence... wondering why Folfiri was not in the picture, though... Sdp, do you know what's with chemo?
11/2005 CC stage 1, F,50yo@dx
Mod dif adenocar, MSS, APC, TP53, CEAs1.6-4.8
1/12 1met liver@Vena Cava, RFA, 3oxi,11 5FU
8/13 2 mets same place,SBRT
4/14 2 Xeliri+Avastin
5/14 Nano Knife liver same 2 mets
6/14 2 Xeliri, ADAPT
4/15 PET, 2 same mets,Cryo Liver
5/15 MJ Oil, Herbs, Suppl, ADAPT
10/15 PET, same area, doubled in size, high SUV
10/15 RH, HAI, visceral involv., no LN
2/16 red FF, 50% red dose FUDR, CEA trends up
3/16 CT, PET, MRI L.Lobe all in small tumors
4/16 No acceptable options, going home

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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby andy21 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:23 pm

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2407/12/5

Already 24 h after application of SIRT, concentrations of circulating nucleosomes, CYFRA 21-1, CEA, liver enzymes and bilirubin were increased whereas GGT, AP, CHE and activity of lipase and amylase decreased significantly. LDH, CRP and CA 19-9 remained stable during the first 24 h and significantly increased 48 h after SIRT. While this effect was most obvious in cell death biomarkers such as nucleosomes and CYFRA 21-1 it was less visible in surface cancer biomarkers such as CEA


I am not a doctor, but maybe it's too early. 3 Months is usual time for any measurable effect.
Caregiver: To 67 Yr father
diag. Stage IV, 5/12, liver mets
6 cycles Xelox/Avastin, Start 06/12
Stage 1 of Two Stage Resection Surgery in Dec, 12. 2nd line fails.
T Cell Trial May-Jul, 2013
Becomes a Heavenly Angel in August, 2013

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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby sdp » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:09 pm

Thanks for the reply

Systemic Chemo isn't recommended and regional therapy is advised -

However, after much persuasion I have been able to get the Dr's to agree to metronomic chemo with xeloda and some other tablets - this is off label recommendation By a senior researcher .

Is anyone on a metronomic chemo
Dx sig CC/ liver mets stg4 dec/11
10 cyc FOLFOX+Erb
Resect CC And Liver July-Aug/12
2 cyc - FOLFOX+Erb
Erb only -Nov/12-mar/13
iRE to 2 liver met Oct 13
2nd recur Mar 14
Liver resect April '14
3rd recur -july '14
Microwave ablation-2 liver met- July '14

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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby andy21 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:00 pm

HAI Pump at MSKCC is a good liver region option and costs 175K.
But insurance rate is 35K so you may be able to negotiate for cash payment.
Caregiver: To 67 Yr father
diag. Stage IV, 5/12, liver mets
6 cycles Xelox/Avastin, Start 06/12
Stage 1 of Two Stage Resection Surgery in Dec, 12. 2nd line fails.
T Cell Trial May-Jul, 2013
Becomes a Heavenly Angel in August, 2013

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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby vilca11 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:25 pm

Sdp,

Something does not sound right here... 2 liver resections, IRE, RFA, chemo...and such a rapid progressions in the same area...like something old was left there to grow.... May be they just do not know how to resect well, or do Nano Knife properly? I do not know anything about Indian cancer care. Are you sure you are in good hands? And do they do HAI in India? Andy is right, that would be the best option to such a conundrum with liver...

Hang in and update please. Vilca
11/2005 CC stage 1, F,50yo@dx
Mod dif adenocar, MSS, APC, TP53, CEAs1.6-4.8
1/12 1met liver@Vena Cava, RFA, 3oxi,11 5FU
8/13 2 mets same place,SBRT
4/14 2 Xeliri+Avastin
5/14 Nano Knife liver same 2 mets
6/14 2 Xeliri, ADAPT
4/15 PET, 2 same mets,Cryo Liver
5/15 MJ Oil, Herbs, Suppl, ADAPT
10/15 PET, same area, doubled in size, high SUV
10/15 RH, HAI, visceral involv., no LN
2/16 red FF, 50% red dose FUDR, CEA trends up
3/16 CT, PET, MRI L.Lobe all in small tumors
4/16 No acceptable options, going home

sdp
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Re: very high cancer marker after sirt to liver mets.

Postby sdp » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:00 pm

All,of the treatments done In Germany and all scans after treatment were fine and then again in a months and a half markers rise and then scans show some activity in liver
Dx sig CC/ liver mets stg4 dec/11
10 cyc FOLFOX+Erb
Resect CC And Liver July-Aug/12
2 cyc - FOLFOX+Erb
Erb only -Nov/12-mar/13
iRE to 2 liver met Oct 13
2nd recur Mar 14
Liver resect April '14
3rd recur -july '14
Microwave ablation-2 liver met- July '14


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