Thinning the herd

[KWT]

i have never heard the term before this thread?? It's common? Stinking thinking = that's F&$ed up?

[Ron50]

I think that the answer to cancer can only be found by individulising cancer treatment. I think that everyone of us has a cancer that is linked to her/his genetic make up which means that if a general treatment is used some will respond and some will be resistant. In other words a few lucky ones will fall thru the cracks. I have been one of the crack dwellers , into my seventeenth year post st3 c cc into 6 nodes, what pisses me off is that there seems to be very little research into us crack dwellers. In 17 years no one in research has bothered to see why I am still alive. If it was ebola or some other pandemic I would be milked like a cow and my blood turned into a vaccine. They are starting to try to profile cancer patients genetically to target treatment but I am not sure so far if they actually know what to look for and what it means. The trouble with the lets try approach in cancer is that it kills more than it saves. Unfortunately the other major problem with cancer is the speed with which it progresses. Doctors seem to only get one shot at curing us . If it works it works, if it doesn't you may not have time for a second chance or treatment. My regards to all of you fighting the battle against such a craphouse disease. Ron.

[Rob in PA]

Just like blights thin out trees and plants, forest fires thin out forests.....cancer thins out humans. Don't mean to sound cold, but they are all living things that have "enemies" who have found their/our weaknesses.

So, that said, in addition to looking for a cure, the REAL breakthrough could be coming through research and prevention of the cause. Sux for us that are already diagnosed, but think about it... Blight can be reduced somewhat by eliminating or reducing invasive species and pests not native to the areas of blight. Devastating Forest fires can be reduced through education and controlled burns. And, finally, cancers can be reduced by knowing more about what "activates" active cancer growth and eliminating those inducers.


So while i pray for a cure, I also pray that something is found to reduce the amount of us being diagnosed.

In simple terms, something just isn't right about the fact that you can't melt a piece of processed cheese with a lighter held under the bottom of it. It shrivels up like a piece of burnt plastic. Don't know what I'm talking about ? Try melting a slice some time. And we (yes, i've eaten it in the past but not any more) put that shit in our bodies!

Just one man's rant

Rob

[MamaN]

Sorry that my saying stinking thinking annoys people it's not suppose to rhyme. It's used to get you out of a bad head space.. Is is used in the program for friends of bill , I don't know if you understand that. Didn't mean to offended ! Ha

Voxx I will not use it again after this , request granted

[Voxx66]

Don't take comments like that one of mine too seriously ha.

[MamaN]

Thanks, butt I meant no harm.

[Voxx66]

This one however I sincerely mean:

I find myself wondering if cancer doesn't provide an evolutionary function. Or possibly is a result of a necessary evolutionary process gone wrong? I would not go so far as to claim that is what cancer "is". I suspect the entirety of the function of its identity is much more complex than that but I do wonder if this is part of it.

[Voxx66]

I know you didn't - neither did I - I was just playing around. My way of having fun. It's much worse in person by the way ha ha ha.

[MamaN]

We are good ! I get it thank you! Ha

[Sandy1962]

I'm with you Kenny, just think if no one died from cancer. Every age group is affected by cancer. If they found a cure, there would be a lot of people out of jobs and a lot of medications (chemo) obsolete. I don't believe a cure will be found, just band aids to keep us going, and not going good

[rp1954]

I am not sure about cure, but I do think that more advanced capabilities with human biochemistry would make treatment radically more tolerable and long term stable. Tx more like nutrients/natural substances, to lead relatively normal lives, with an ever expanding envelope for curative surgeries and multitarget cocktails.

[KWT]

Robs cheese!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rUC0qgg5MhE

[juliej]

Kenny, aren't the Darwin Awards for "thinning the herd"? http://www.darwinawards.com/

I don't think there will be a single magic bullet for curing cancer, but I do side with Dr. Wolchok and many other immunotherapy researchers in believing the answer to controlling/curing cancer is (re)activating our immune system.

[Julie YW]

Absolutely, I think a cure is possible, even likely. Not in time for me but I perhaps for my children. I'm sure it will simply be replaced by another disease or a variant of cancer. If you've read "The Emperor of All Maladies", then you'd see how despite cancer being around since the beginning of the human race, we've only really been treating it since the mid-1800s when surgery first became possible with the invention of anesthesia and then radiation in the early 20th century. Chemotherapy didn't actually exist until 1946. So you see, treatments haven't been around for very long and look at the tremendous advances that have been made in a relatively short time. I have a lot of faith in the ingenuity of mankind -- look at the acceleration of technological advances -- it's astounding. Have a little faith in our race. Granted -- we'll probably kill ourselves and put our species into extinction through other means, but a cure for cancer, well, I think that's entirely doable.

[CRguy]

Does anyone really believe that there is a cure in the future?

Absolutely ...
just the way some antibiotics and vaccinations are the "cure" for some infectious diseases.

Maybe Cancer is just natures little way of keeping the earths population down.

Absolutely ...
and natural disasters, pandemics, wars ... ya' know the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse type stuff ?
Before becoming a vet I was basically an evolutionary biologist ( and fan of Darwin ... AND the Darwin Awards !!! )
On a cosmological scale our human considerations and concerns are all we've got to cling to ... but they don't really amount to a hill of beans, neither metaphysically nor epistemologically speaking.

The secret

which got lost neither hides
nor reveals itself, it shows forth

tokens. And we rush
to catch up. - Charles Olson

....and don't we all, always seem to be " rushing to catch up " on this Journey ?
we "rush" to get a new cure ... we find a temporary "answer" ...... BUTT maybe... just maybe

we need to start asking the right questions .. ya' know
to find the secret
which got lost ?