Thinning the herd

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KWT
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Thinning the herd

Postby KWT » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:25 am

Does anyone really believe that there is a cure in the future? Maybe Cancer is just natures little way of keeping the earths population down.

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby exaussie » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:31 am

DS 26 yrs old diagnosed 6/13 T3N2aM1b
Resection 6/13
6 rounds chemo folfax
12/13 Fissure
hernia surgery 12/13
5 months break
Maintenance chemo 3/14
Crazy growth. Liver failing. Folfox and vectibex 7-29-14
Chemo failure Hospice 8/26
Left us 8/28

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby MamaN » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:48 am

I'm sorry you feel that way. I call that stinking thinking. I think they will find something some day. I have to beleive in this! What are all those people researching for its not to waste their time. JMO
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Lymph vascular invasion
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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby KWT » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:02 pm

MamaN wrote:I'm sorry you feel that way. I call that stinking thinking. I think they will find something some day. I have to beleive in this! What are all those people researching for its not to waste their time. JMO


I'm not saying they shouldn't try. But wouldn't the earth become quite crowded without it? It is "stinking thinking" I agree.

exaussie, that's a great link. I often wonder why we're trying so hard when in actuality our lives are barely a blip in time. :roll: if I was completely cured tomorrow in the "blink of an eye" I'll 80 years old an on the way out anyhow :shock:

I wonder if human beings dissapeared of the face of the earth, would anybody miss us? :lol:

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby peanut_8 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:06 pm

I tend to think there will be treatment options so cancer will become more like a chronic illness, and the treatment options will be EXPENSIVE. BUTT that's what insurance is for. At least here in the US. :|
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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby KWT » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:16 pm

And NO, I haven't even smoked any weed yet today. It's going to be a long one. :D

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby jillbugs4110 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:19 pm

I think how will the medical industry replace the cash cow that cancer is to them??? We are high rollrrs when one treatment of avastan gives them 11,000 where elsr will they genrrate all this money???
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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby KWT » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:24 pm

jillbugs4110 wrote:I think how will the medical industry replace the cash cow that cancer is to them??? We are high rollrrs when one treatment of avastan gives them 11,000 where elsr will they genrrate all this money???


Breast implants, liposuction, face lifts, and so on. if we're gonna live forever we best look good.

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby bitchslapped » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:44 pm

I dunno Kenny, but I'm going to bump up that thread on those two OHSU docs & the climb in case anyone wants to check their progress on FB. There's at least two that believe in research.
I'll cop to being disappointed in the immnunotherapy trials for our members so far, but speculation is we're about two years out.

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby sadysue » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:51 pm

No, I don't believe there will ever be a real cure for cancer. I do believe that with all the research being done on cancer that somebody will eventually come across somthing that will make it managable. Somebody else just posted that it will become just another chronic illness - I agree with that - more managable than it is now but with the person forever. BUT we can always dream big :D
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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby KWT » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:08 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm on the hope for a cure team.

I hope I have two years BS :shock: i love climbing even without a reason!

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby skypup » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:51 pm

I'm with you, Kenny -- hoping for better treatments but accepting of our overall (lack of) importance to Nature as individuals.

I've come to view Hope as being just as dangerous to my mental health as Fear. Just accepting What Is makes things better for me. But there are those days...

I sure don't believe we are anywhere close to a good management drug for us. Two years? That would mean something would have been in the pipeline for a decade. If something gets going in two years, I'll be long gone before it makes it out. Sound like stinking thinking? I've lived the reality too long to a) not feel gratitude for the time I've gotten and b) believe much hype.

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby Voxx66 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:36 pm

I now formally declare/request a ban on the term "stinking thinking". I have always hated that term. Among other reasons - in my version of the American accent the words don't rhyme. That sort of thing really bothers me ha ha. Now continue with your regularly scheduled discussion. Nevermind the cranky guy on day 2 of the Folfiri cycle.
DX and resect 10/2012 age 46
Stage IIa CRC
liver mets both lobes 8/2013
CEA 28
FOLFOX + Avastin 8/26/13 3 rounds
Folfox only 3 rds + rd 8
platelets low round 7,9,10 5FU only
1/14 CEA 1.0 y90
5fu
10/14 mets lung and peri
1/15 Folfiri

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby skypup » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:44 pm

in my part of the world it rhymes, Voxx... stankin' thankin'... HA! But I do not like the term, rhyme or no...

Did you do reduced dose?

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Re: Thinning the herd

Postby Voxx66 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:48 pm

For me it's "stinking thanking". It also bugs me because really awful "motivational" speakers sometimes use it ha.

Yes - we dropped Irinotecan tp 85% and he also reduced the 5fu somewhat. Not perfect but better.
DX and resect 10/2012 age 46
Stage IIa CRC
liver mets both lobes 8/2013
CEA 28
FOLFOX + Avastin 8/26/13 3 rounds
Folfox only 3 rds + rd 8
platelets low round 7,9,10 5FU only
1/14 CEA 1.0 y90
5fu
10/14 mets lung and peri
1/15 Folfiri


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