Dreading today's onc visit.

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Diane61
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Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby Diane61 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:33 am

My gut is telling me this is the last visit we'll have with him. It's now time to turn his care over to hospice. He hasn't had any chemo in over 5 weeks, he's been to weak, losing weight rapidly, and dehydrated. He's now at 120 lbs and he's 6'1". He's been getting extra fluids, but that stopped last week due to swollen legs, and pitting edema. I felt that it was easier (for lack of better word) when we had something to fight, but now we're truly facing the loosing battle. I want a crystal ball to see how much time we have left. We still have some last minute decisions to make, like officially retiring, he's staying on long disability as long as he can for the insurance benfits. Today I'll probably talk to my daughter about the possibility of postponing her wedding reception, it's scheduled for the end of dec. My DH wants the kids to move on with their lives and not change anything. So I'd like go forward with the marriage but postpone the reception. I wont be able to handle his death and her celebration in the same month IF it comes down to that. I realize this is all speculations, I've always been the type who needs answers, a path to follow, needs to know what to expect before it happens.
Caregiver of DH age 54
Colon resection 2/14
Stage IV multipal mets to liver
Folfox w Avestin starting 3/11 stopped 5/6
Folfiri + Zaltrap 5/28/14 stopped 7/23 liver mets bigger
Cetuximab + Irinotcan 8/13
Hospice

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dianetavegia
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby dianetavegia » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:13 am

Diane, May I be terribly honest? Forgive me if I offend.

I don't think from what you've told us that your husband will be here in December. I think, if you can get the doctor alone and get his honest opinion, use the retirement as an excuse or wedding date, I think he's going to tell you weeks, not 2 1/2 months.

I'm so sorry for what you're facing and wish there was a magic wand we could wave so those who MUST leave, could do so on our timing and in the way we choose, but it just doesn't work that way.

I don't know what time you'll be seeing the doctor so I'm going to pray for you and hubby right now that you get the answers you need and can work these needs out very soon. Praying, too, that your husband is in NO PAIN and that God give you and your family great comfort during this time.

Diane
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Stage III cc surgery 1/7/09. 12 tx FOLFOX
Stage IV PET = 1.5cm liver met. HR 4/11/12

14 years since dx and 11 years post liver resection.
Pronounced CURED and discharged by onc

“O Lord my God, I cried out to You, And You healed me.” Psalms 30:2

sadysue
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby sadysue » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:33 am

Wishing you and your family strength in the days to come. Pray for a miracle but prepare for reality.
Rectal dx 4/2011 (Stage 3B - T3N1M0)
5FU/Rad - daily/6 wks ending 6/2011
Surgery 8/19/2011
Finished 8 rounds Folfox 2/2012
Ileo reverse and port out 3/2012
NED

pfCml73183
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby pfCml73183 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:27 am

Praying for your peace and comfort right now.
God bless you and your hubby, Celeste
Wife and BF to Peter, 54
mCRC/IV/BRAF+
Erbitux and Urelumab trial @MSKCC 3/15
went home 5/8/15

skypup
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby skypup » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:33 am

I hope you have a good hospice -- they can be incredible and it is better to start with them before the final days.

I hope you have considered whether it is financially better for your husband to pass on as an employee or as a retiree. Where I used to work, employee was better due to life insurance, etc.

I wish you peace and your husband some ease in this hard time.

orcasres
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby orcasres » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:28 pm

First, I want to wish you and your family peace and comfort in the coming days.

Next, I want to second what Skypup said. As an IT exec, I managed a number of different employee organizations, (I also pinch hit as an HR exec for a while but hated it) and normally you would be in better shape if he passed away as an employee. It is important that you do everything for your comfort, but you and your family must continue on with your lives and you would probably be better supported if he remains an employee. I worked at one company where one of our vice presidents had a very aggressive form of leukemia (he got one of the first stem cell transplants done at Stanford) and no one had a problem with him remaining an employee until he passed away. If there is a pension involved, 401K, life insurance, etc. all will require decisions to be made if he retires. At least, you should try and look into this before he decides to retire.

Starting hospice as soon as it is feasible will take some burden off you and make him more comfortable. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Lois
63 yo F
Colon resection Sept. 2010
pT3N0M0 Stage 2A
Medullary Tumor 6.5cm long
Lymphovascular invasion
Lynch negative
12 FOLFOX 11/2010 to 5/2011 8 w/Oxi
NED so far

Danieljt
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby Danieljt » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:42 pm

My prayers are with you and your husband. May the next part of your journey be peaceful.
Hugs, Jackie
70 male stage 3b cc
Dx 5/9/14
Resection 7/1/14
dx 9/14
65 yr wife DLCl
Sct 3/21/19 Ned last 8 mo.

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dianetavegia
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby dianetavegia » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:16 pm

Diane, do you have an update for us? I've been praying and thinking about you and your family today.

Diane Tavegia
Stage III cc surgery 1/7/09. 12 tx FOLFOX
Stage IV PET = 1.5cm liver met. HR 4/11/12

14 years since dx and 11 years post liver resection.
Pronounced CURED and discharged by onc

“O Lord my God, I cried out to You, And You healed me.” Psalms 30:2

Don.in.Dallas
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby Don.in.Dallas » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:00 pm

At the risk of being politically incorrect, perhaps your daughter could have a very private and simple wedding ceremony SOON so your DH can be present. Afterwards, a private reception for just the four of you (or small group). Your daughter can still have the full program in late December. Is that workable?
Male 56 at DX 05/14
05/14 Resection, 3.2cm sigmoid CRC Stage IIIb, 2/17 nodes, T3N1M0
06/14 PET scan clear, portacath install
06/14 Begin FOLFOX6 12x, End 01/15
09/20 Still NED!
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Previous: Laryngeal cancer
33 x rad
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Diane61
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby Diane61 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:52 pm

Thanks everyone for all the all wishes. Doctors appt went as expected yesterday he wouldn't pin point a time frame but he did say that he "thinks talking multiple months is to long to consider" and we signed on with hospice. Everything has been moving so fast. Rn, aid, and clergy came today, they delivered medical equipment, and social worker will come tomorrow.

We have looked into all scenarios regarding retiring or staying employed. If he retires I'll get a better pension but we'll lose benefits, health and life ins., but we can pick up cobra and we can also pay the premiums to continue the life policy. That's one reason why he's trying to wait until last days to officially retire.

Our daughter is open to changing wedding plans. It's somewhat awkward to push it up as they have no place to live yet etc, but we've been talking and working through some possibilities.
Caregiver of DH age 54
Colon resection 2/14
Stage IV multipal mets to liver
Folfox w Avestin starting 3/11 stopped 5/6
Folfiri + Zaltrap 5/28/14 stopped 7/23 liver mets bigger
Cetuximab + Irinotcan 8/13
Hospice

canadiandaughter
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby canadiandaughter » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:34 pm

So sorry Diane. Sounds like they had lots of supports available for you, that is a good thing. I can't imagine how overwhelming it must be right now with all the decisions that you are facing. I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers. Take care of yourself!
DD to 81 year old father
dx 24/07/14 iv cc mets liver/lung
folifiri started 19/07/14
shrinkage of all mets
growth in the liver,started folfox/avastin 80% 13/01/16
reduced to 70% due to side effects 27/01/16
First scan on folfox shows shrinkage in lungs, but liver just stable
6 rounds of vectibix-fail. 3cm growth and new spots showing Waiting for panel recommendations
At peace January 8, 2017

orcasres
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Re: Dreading today's onc visit.

Postby orcasres » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:24 am

Diane, we' re thinking fondly of you and your family right now. Please take care of yourself. Lois
63 yo F
Colon resection Sept. 2010
pT3N0M0 Stage 2A
Medullary Tumor 6.5cm long
Lymphovascular invasion
Lynch negative
12 FOLFOX 11/2010 to 5/2011 8 w/Oxi
NED so far


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