Dads appt today, asked about kras

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canadiandaughter
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Dads appt today, asked about kras

Postby canadiandaughter » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:31 pm

So my folks went into their appt today with a list of questions from me. One was what is his kras status. The answer, they don't test for that until they find that chemo is not working. Another was what are his CEA levels? ENd of July before starting chemo they were normal. Also found out it was his white blood count that was low that caused him to miss chemo for a week. So really didn't learn all that much. Is this off that they don't test for Kras right away? Tomorrow they meet with a surgeon, so hoping that appt goes ok as well. I have my daughter tagging along to that one so we get the details about what he says. THis really sucks being so far away!!
DD to 81 year old father
dx 24/07/14 iv cc mets liver/lung
folifiri started 19/07/14
shrinkage of all mets
growth in the liver,started folfox/avastin 80% 13/01/16
reduced to 70% due to side effects 27/01/16
First scan on folfox shows shrinkage in lungs, but liver just stable
6 rounds of vectibix-fail. 3cm growth and new spots showing Waiting for panel recommendations
At peace January 8, 2017

mymom
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Re: Dads appt today, asked about kras

Postby mymom » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:00 pm

My mothers oncologists tested for KRAS right off the bat when first diagnosed. Not sure if it is different in the US. Hang in there.
Stage 4 CC DX 5/11
colon/livr rsct 5/11(1 met)
Folfox July-11/11
NED to 5/12
New Primry BC-4/12,Stage 1
2 livermet 5/2012
Liver rsct,HAI 6/12,Folfiri
NED to 10/13,1 liver met,ablation, Folfiri
NED to 12/14, another spot
3/15 NED
Ablation 1 liver met 10/15
1/16-current NED
6/22- small spot liver again, ablation oct 2023

canadiandaughter
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Re: Dads appt today, asked about kras

Postby canadiandaughter » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:06 pm

Thanks. I'm fairly positive that he is kras wild as the chemo seems to be working on his colon tumor as far has his symptoms go. Will be a sleepless night before the catscan results in November to see what the liver and the lungs have done. I totally get why those who are NED have anxiety when they go for scans. This disease sucks no matter what stage you are at it seems. You never really get away from it. It has to keep its ugly claws in your for life.
DD to 81 year old father
dx 24/07/14 iv cc mets liver/lung
folifiri started 19/07/14
shrinkage of all mets
growth in the liver,started folfox/avastin 80% 13/01/16
reduced to 70% due to side effects 27/01/16
First scan on folfox shows shrinkage in lungs, but liver just stable
6 rounds of vectibix-fail. 3cm growth and new spots showing Waiting for panel recommendations
At peace January 8, 2017

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raym
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Re: Dads appt today, asked about kras

Postby raym » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:53 pm

I think what the doctor meant to say about chemo working is that if the first line chemo does not work they will move to second line chemo which can include treatments that are not effective for KRAS mutant patients (Vectibix and Erbitux). The fact that FOLFIRI may be working does not indicate the KRAS status.
3/11 IIIC +/FOLFOX
4/12 HIPEC
6/12 Chmo/Rad
9/12 XELIRI+Avast/Zltra
9/13 Plvic Absc,stpd chemo
11/13 Tumr rmvd frm Lap Port incis
12/13 Xeloda
1/14 Cardiac Issue no Xeloda/5FU
3/14 Irinotecan
6/14 Stopped chemo
8/14 Clin Trial
9/14 Infectn - Stpd Trial

canadiandaughter
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Re: Dads appt today, asked about kras

Postby canadiandaughter » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:45 am

Thanks Ray, i'm trying hard to learn all of this damn cancer stuff but sometimes its mind boggling and I appreciate anything I can get from those of you who do know.
DD to 81 year old father
dx 24/07/14 iv cc mets liver/lung
folifiri started 19/07/14
shrinkage of all mets
growth in the liver,started folfox/avastin 80% 13/01/16
reduced to 70% due to side effects 27/01/16
First scan on folfox shows shrinkage in lungs, but liver just stable
6 rounds of vectibix-fail. 3cm growth and new spots showing Waiting for panel recommendations
At peace January 8, 2017

janderson
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Re: Dads appt today, asked about kras

Postby janderson » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:09 am

They didn't test for KRAS with me until I needed an EGFR inhibitot (Erbitux, or Vectibix). CEA might not be a good indicator for him if he still has visible lesions and his CEA is normal. That is the case with me. I can only go by scans to know what the cancer is doing.
DX 10-05 stage IV
liver resection 12-05 Folfox1-05 to 7-06
Liver resection 8-07 Folfiri 9-07 to 3-08
Liver resection 12-11
Recurrence 2/7/2014, liver, chestwall mets, 16 rounds chemo
7/3/14, y90 radioembolization, steady shrinkage
12/8/14, cryoablation to liver and chest wall
6/1 to 6/26 SBRT radio surgery
7/2 more cryo ablation to right lung
7/16 lung infection drain tube installed
9/4 chest wall resection to remove 2 ribs

canadiandaughter
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Re: Dads appt today, asked about kras

Postby canadiandaughter » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:16 pm

Surgeon today said from his first scan there was malignant looking lymph nodes in the chest so no surgical option. Why the heck would the oncologist send them there and raise his hopes??
DD to 81 year old father
dx 24/07/14 iv cc mets liver/lung
folifiri started 19/07/14
shrinkage of all mets
growth in the liver,started folfox/avastin 80% 13/01/16
reduced to 70% due to side effects 27/01/16
First scan on folfox shows shrinkage in lungs, but liver just stable
6 rounds of vectibix-fail. 3cm growth and new spots showing Waiting for panel recommendations
At peace January 8, 2017


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