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JDinNC
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Metformin

Postby JDinNC » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:29 am

Is anyone taking Metformin ..and how much a day?
61 y/o female @ DX...........
T3N0M1
6/13 DX- stage 4
Sigmoid colon cancer.
One met to lung
7/13 colon resection
8/13 lung resection
7/17 four years....NED
8/18 five years....NED
MELANOMA
63 y/o @ DX
6/15 stage 2a
7/15 surgery on arm
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4/16 recurrance
5/16 remove metastasis from back
5/16. Started immunotherapy
8/16 discontinue treatment
7/18...PET scan...NED

steveincolorado
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Re: Metformin

Postby steveincolorado » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:18 pm

I take a total of 2 grams daily (4, 500mg tablets) Two in the morning and two more in the evening. Haven't noticed any side effects or issues when I did the chemo.

Steve
DX Stage IIIC 6 Aug 2012 at age 58
Resection 27 Aug 2012
PET scan 25 Sep 2012 no further cancer detected
Chemo started 15 Oct 2012
--Oxaliplatin
--Fluorouracil
--Leucovorin
Chemo completed 20 March 2013
CT scan 25 April 2013 No sign of cancer

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Re: Metformin

Postby ANDRETEXAS » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:17 am

I take two 500mg tablets daily.....and had no problem while I was on FOLFOX.
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Re: Metformin

Postby Danieljt » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:05 pm

What is Metformin and what is it for. My husband as been sick since his 2nd chemo last Tue. And I don't know how to help him. He can't eat and has fits of nausea. I know it's part of the deal but I feel so helpless when he looks to me for help. We will stay positive until this is over with. One day at a time. It used to bug me when people said that to me, but now I believe it and say it all the times. Thanks for letting me vent. Jackie, wife of danieljt
70 male stage 3b cc
Dx 5/9/14
Resection 7/1/14
dx 9/14
65 yr wife DLCl
Sct 3/21/19 Ned last 8 mo.

JDinNC
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Re: Metformin

Postby JDinNC » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:41 pm

While I was doing chemo, I was given a prescription of compazine 10mg.for nausea and vomiting. Your husband won't have an appetite, so don't force him to eat because the desire is just not there. I found that boost or ensure at least gave me the minerals I needed. Instant breakfast is a cheaper alternative...

My doctor put me on metformin to lower my glucose level, she read that during a cancer conference in Texas it was mentioned metformin could possibly help prevent cancer.
61 y/o female @ DX...........
T3N0M1
6/13 DX- stage 4
Sigmoid colon cancer.
One met to lung
7/13 colon resection
8/13 lung resection
7/17 four years....NED
8/18 five years....NED
MELANOMA
63 y/o @ DX
6/15 stage 2a
7/15 surgery on arm
7/15 NED
4/16 recurrance
5/16 remove metastasis from back
5/16. Started immunotherapy
8/16 discontinue treatment
7/18...PET scan...NED

midlifemom
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Re: Metformin

Postby midlifemom » Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:38 pm

Jackie, please talk to your husbands doctor about his side effects. There are drugs that can control the nausea and vomiting.
Stage 3 cc - dx Jan '14 age 53, cea 2.9
t2n2m0, KRAS mutant, MSS
Folfox Feb - Aug '14
Nov '14 cea 27.7 -2 liver masses
Dec '14 left lobectomy and HAI
Jan '15 FUDR and FOLFIRI
Aug '15 fudr done, liver clear, add avastin for lungs. Cea 4.3
Feb '16 CEA rising
May '16 2 wk break then drop Iri for 6 weeks.
Jul '16 cancer grew, constricted main bile duct. Stent inserted. On break till jaundice clears. CEA climbing. Doing reduced Folfox. Allergic to Oxali.
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steveincolorado
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Re: Metformin

Postby steveincolorado » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:56 am

My Glucose levels surged when I started chemo due to a steroid that was administered for approximately 20 minutes each session. The steroid "Dexamethasone" caused my glucose levels to elevate to where I was seeing blood sugar numbers of 300 to 400 plus. The metformin along with other pills I take to control my glucose levels failed me ;-( and I ended up on insulin along with the pills.

Thanks for mentioning Metformin and possible colon cancer prevention. I'm now two years NED, maybe because I take Metformin? Who knows of course I've been on the Metformin for almost eight years and became infected with colon cancer.

Thanks

Steve
DX Stage IIIC 6 Aug 2012 at age 58
Resection 27 Aug 2012
PET scan 25 Sep 2012 no further cancer detected
Chemo started 15 Oct 2012
--Oxaliplatin
--Fluorouracil
--Leucovorin
Chemo completed 20 March 2013
CT scan 25 April 2013 No sign of cancer

weisssoccermom
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Re: Metformin

Postby weisssoccermom » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:06 am

The study that you are referencing doesn't exactly indicate that Metformin prevents colon cancer. The theory is that some cancers, among them colon cancer, are caused by insulin resistance and the ensuing spikes/lows and inflammation that come with unstable blood glucosea levels. Metformin is a drug (Bev...this is your territory) that is given to diabetic patients to help control their blood sugar levels and help them remain more stable. It is NOT used instead of injected insulin for type 1 diabetics. The theory is that if patients can keep their blood glucose levels more constant, then all the other chain of events that could possibly occur won't. Now, that doesn't mean that one couldn't still get a recurrence or someone who is on Metformin couldn't be diagnosed with colon cancer because they certainly can. It is just another tool that doctors are willing to try. The drug has also been shown to aid in weight loss but......they aren't sure whether or not the weight loss benefit comes from keeping insulin levels more stable and/or the diarrhea which is common in the higher doses that are generally necessary. As both my onc an GP indicated, just putting someone on a low dose isn't necessarily going to 'protect' them. Higher doses that might, tend to bring gastro side effects. ...something I had when I tried it, and, to me just wasn't worth the effort.
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Re: Metformin

Postby Bev G » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:42 am

I'll try to say this in an easily understandable nutshell.

There is a MYTH that eating "sugar" promotes cancer growth, and it doesn't. All carbohydrates, whatever they are, are eventually converted into the "simple" (ie rapidly metabolized) sugars glucose and fructose in the body. It is the only molecules of sugars present in the blood. Some carbohydrates take longer to metabolize than others. Complex carbohydrates (i.e. bigger molecules) take longer to convert. When the blood glucose level rises it compels the pancreas to secrete more insulin. Sometimes it can't secrete enough, or sometimes the insulin secreted doesn't do a great job (ie insulin resistance) and VOILA: Type 2 diabetes.

There is a thought that the overproduction of insulin (which function like growth hormone in the body) might promote cancer growth, NOT sugar consumption, OVER PRODUCTION of insulin. Through a very complex set of stuff, Metformin reduces the amount of insulin that needs to be produced. Google it if you want too know why. There is a lot of study going on to see IF it might make sense to put cancer peeps on Metformin (even without diabetes) The jury, as far as I know, is still out on this.

Bev
58 yo Type1 DM 48 years
12/09 Stage IV 2/22 nodes + liver met, colon resec
3 tx FOLFIRI, liver resec 4/10
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Re: Metformin

Postby weisssoccermom » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:14 am

Bev, I hope I didn't come across as saying that sugar feeds/causes cancer to grow because if that is how I typed it (on vacation - using my tablet) it is NOT what I meant. Both my docs have indicated that while there 'may' be a connection between Metformin and insuslin resistance or poor insulin metabolization, it is not conclusive as to whether or not the drug works. I know many breast cancer patients are put on it for the same reason....again, I think it is just a theory.
Dx 6/22/2006 IIA rectal cancer
6 wks rad/Xeloda -finished 9/06
1st attempt transanal excision 11/06
11/17/06 XELOX 1 cycle
5 months Xeloda only Dec '06 - April '07
10+ blood clots, 1 DVT 1/07
transanal excision 4/20/07 path-NO CANCER CELLS!
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Re: Metformin

Postby Bev G » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:34 am

weisssoccermom wrote:Bev, I hope I didn't come across as saying that sugar feeds/causes cancer to grow because if that is how I typed it (on vacation - using my tablet) it is NOT what I meant. Both my docs have indicated that while there 'may' be a connection between Metformin and insuslin resistance or poor insulin metabolization, it is not conclusive as to whether or not the drug works. I know many breast cancer patients are put on it for the same reason....again, I think it is just a theory.



No Jaynee, you didn't at all, I didn't think. Metformin overcomes some of the effects of insulin resistance by how it works in the liver. Ashlee was on it for awhile and I was very happy about it. I really like the theory very much. Whether it actually works, I don't know. I should read a lot more about it.

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58 yo Type1 DM 48 years
12/09 Stage IV 2/22 nodes + liver met, colon resec
3 tx FOLFIRI, liver resec 4/10
9/10 6 mos off chemo, Neg PET&CTC CEA nl
2/11 finished total 10 rounds chemo

9/13 ^17th clean PET/CT NED for now

steveincolorado
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Re: Metformin

Postby steveincolorado » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:43 pm

Bev,

Thanks for the info.

Steve
DX Stage IIIC 6 Aug 2012 at age 58
Resection 27 Aug 2012
PET scan 25 Sep 2012 no further cancer detected
Chemo started 15 Oct 2012
--Oxaliplatin
--Fluorouracil
--Leucovorin
Chemo completed 20 March 2013
CT scan 25 April 2013 No sign of cancer


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