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Badass
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PSK

Postby Badass » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:32 am

Anyone here using PSK who can recommend a reliable and organic source? Also, what is the dosing?

Thanks!
Jane
R.C. 12/23/11 at age 52 T3N0M0
3/1/12 completed Xeloda and radiation
5/4/12 LAR & Ileostomy
6/7/12-10/4/12 6 rounds Xelox
11/27/12 Reversal
7/13/13 1 liver met
8/13 Met resection /hai pump
4/14 Chemo completed (Irinotecan/5fu/fudr in pump)

KWT
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Re: PSK

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:31 am


Ehut
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Location: Algonquin, IL

Re: PSK

Postby Ehut » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:46 am

I take 2400 mg/day, half in the late morning, the other half in the evening. It's kind of pricey, but if you buy 5 bottles from mushroomscience you get another one free.
Dx 12/11 rectal stage IV w/ 6 mets to liver, age 35
4 cycles FOLFOX 12/11 to 2/12
short course radiation 2/12
rectal/liver resection 3/12, temp ileostomy
8 cycles FOLFOX/FOLFIRI 4/12 to 8/12
ileostomy reversal 10/12
port out 10/13
1/17: Added daughter to family!
12/19: Added son to family!
NED for 11+ years and counting!

gfpiv
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Re: PSK

Postby gfpiv » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:23 am

Same here - Mushroom Science. I was taking 3000 mg/day but now I do 2400 like Ehut.
Chip
DX stage IV CC Jan '10, numerous unresectable liver mets
FOLFOX + Avastin Feb-Jul '10
Colon resection, HAI install Aug '10
Systemic FOLFIRI and hepatic FUDR Dec'10-May'12
Chemo break May'12-pres (tumors calcified & stable, knock on wood)
Billiary bypass surgery and SBRT on pesky liver met in 2015

KWT
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Re: PSK

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:36 am

Did you guys start out at a low dose and then progress to the higher?

Ehut
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Location: Algonquin, IL

Re: PSK

Postby Ehut » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:44 pm

I started at the same level I'm at. Have never noticed any side effects at all.
Dx 12/11 rectal stage IV w/ 6 mets to liver, age 35
4 cycles FOLFOX 12/11 to 2/12
short course radiation 2/12
rectal/liver resection 3/12, temp ileostomy
8 cycles FOLFOX/FOLFIRI 4/12 to 8/12
ileostomy reversal 10/12
port out 10/13
1/17: Added daughter to family!
12/19: Added son to family!
NED for 11+ years and counting!

radnyc
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Re: PSK

Postby radnyc » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:53 pm

I use the same source as the others, 3600 mg/day, 3 capsules in the morning 3 later in the day. It's important to take them on an empty stomach I've been told. I take three first thing in the morning, and the others between lunch and dinner.

Al
DX Jan 2010, at age 47
Feb - colon resection - 2/17 nodes positive
April - liver mets - Stage 4
3 months Folfox chemotherapy
August '10 liver resection and HAI pump
7 months chemo FUDR HAI and Folfiri systemic
NED since August 2010
Last treatment April 2011
HAI Pump removed Dec 2015

Badass
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Re: PSK

Postby Badass » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:54 pm

Thanks for the feedback-- I checked out the link-- looks reputable; how did you hear of it? Does not say organic, though.
R.C. 12/23/11 at age 52 T3N0M0
3/1/12 completed Xeloda and radiation
5/4/12 LAR & Ileostomy
6/7/12-10/4/12 6 rounds Xelox
11/27/12 Reversal
7/13/13 1 liver met
8/13 Met resection /hai pump
4/14 Chemo completed (Irinotecan/5fu/fudr in pump)

KWT
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Re: PSK

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:55 pm

Rad, that's a lot of Psk how did you arrive at that dosage?

Badass, it's from oregon it's gotta be organic :wink:

KWT
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Re: PSK

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:03 pm

I just remembered the brand host defense I know that it's organic and was the product used in some studies just don't remember which

http://www.hostdefense.com

Badass
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Re: PSK

Postby Badass » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:36 pm

Thanks, Kenny! I took a look at Host Defense and after seeing the picture on the box, I understand why it's called "Turkey Tail!" So, I like that it is organic but now I am really confused. It is hard to know how to compare the dosing to Mushroom Science since the processing methods are different.

Jane
R.C. 12/23/11 at age 52 T3N0M0
3/1/12 completed Xeloda and radiation
5/4/12 LAR & Ileostomy
6/7/12-10/4/12 6 rounds Xelox
11/27/12 Reversal
7/13/13 1 liver met
8/13 Met resection /hai pump
4/14 Chemo completed (Irinotecan/5fu/fudr in pump)

KWT
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Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:22 pm

Re: PSK

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:11 pm


Badass
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Re: PSK

Postby Badass » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:18 pm

Yes, was there something in particular you wanted me to check out? This statement made me wary, to say the least:
"A hot water extract of Coriolus, VPS, was found to enhance development of large intestinal tumors in mice (12)."
R.C. 12/23/11 at age 52 T3N0M0
3/1/12 completed Xeloda and radiation
5/4/12 LAR & Ileostomy
6/7/12-10/4/12 6 rounds Xelox
11/27/12 Reversal
7/13/13 1 liver met
8/13 Met resection /hai pump
4/14 Chemo completed (Irinotecan/5fu/fudr in pump)

KWT
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Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:22 pm

Re: PSK

Postby KWT » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:25 pm

Nothing in particular I did see that and had me scratching my head it would be nice to get clarification on that :roll:
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radnyc
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PSK different from VPS

Postby radnyc » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:56 pm

VPS and PSK are different extracts of the mushroom used, Coriolos Versicolor. PSK is the extract which has shown the best results, particularly in Japan. This is the study which refers to the VPS extract causing an increase in the size of the tumors. At the end it is mentioned how PSK had the opposite effect on rats, it's an interesting read.

http://iv.iiarjournals.org/content/19/5/867.long

I take 3600 mg because that is also a recommended dose on the package:

"Suggested Use: Adults, take 1-3 capsules, twice daily, on an empty stomach."

I figure the max is fine, as there is no evidence of any type of side effect. The more the merrier.

Al
DX Jan 2010, at age 47
Feb - colon resection - 2/17 nodes positive
April - liver mets - Stage 4
3 months Folfox chemotherapy
August '10 liver resection and HAI pump
7 months chemo FUDR HAI and Folfiri systemic
NED since August 2010
Last treatment April 2011
HAI Pump removed Dec 2015


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