Finally breathing better and a little good news...

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Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby jmarie » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:53 pm

The last few weeks have ben a blur of dancing around with babies and lows of anxiety becausee I can't find a trial. I had a great time with my sister and her babies, we laughed, danced and cried. The process of going through 100's of clinical trials overwhelmed me and I had to ask my Mom to come down to help. It is a lot of pressure when you feel like you have to find a clinical trial to save your life. On top of that making all the calls, you have to wait for people to call back, trials keep opening and closing, changing criteria. It is really mind boggling. Thankfully the CCAlliance has a great trial matching service that walks you through the process and will explain all the details to you.

My mental downhill spiral started about two weeks ago when I saw my Onc two weeks ago, he told me my lung was worse, chemo wasn't working and to go find a clinical trial... :shock: ... That was it, I don't know how it normally works but I find it hard to believe that Onc's normally just tell you they are done your on your own finding a trial. As he was shoeing me off I flat out insisted he refer me to a pulminologist. Which he finally did with the side note that he didn't think it would help me any. Last Friday when I spoke to my therapist, who works closely with my Onc and Rad Onc, he was shocked and had never heard of my Onc doing this to a patient and was convinced it was a misunderstanding. He asked my permission to speak on my behalf to my Onc, rad Onc and head of research. I said fine, I would take any help I could get. This past Monday after two weeks of getting no where with trials I had a followup appt with my Onc, most likely my last appt with him. This time my Mom was there and she is not very happy about the situation. My Onc completely changed his tune saying that seeing the pulminologist would probably help me greatly, suggesting I see the Rad Onc again to do reduce the size of the lung tumor, and refering me to a differant Onc at the Mayo clinic than I usually see. He previously wouldn't even speak about radiation, saying I needed something systemic. Why didn't he do all this two weeks ago? The final straw was as I was leaving the office I asked for a copy of my CT scan from the hospital. I read through it as I walked to the car. It did say my lung was worse, but it also said that CT contrast wasn't sufficient in liver to accurately meassure the liver tumors, but they appeared to be calcified. It didn't mention any tumor in my colon or rectum!!! , it just mentions the colitis, but no signs of cancer. I know that a PET scan would better show metabolic activity, but my last PET scan showed two measurable tumors in my colon. So apparently radiation did work. What I don't understand is why would my Onc not tell me this little bit of good news while telling me my lung was so bad and chemo wasn't working. So, since my liver and colon are stable, doesn't it seem like a good time to do radiation on my lung to make me more comfortable while we find my next chemo?

When I was first dxd it was a challenging case, doctors were wanting to be part of my medical team. Now that the challenge is gone and defeat seems eminent it seems like my Onc has lost interest and doesn't have time. I think I am done with him, I have lost my trust and respect for him. So I am going to see my Rad Onc next week and then in two weeks I have an appt with a new Onc at Mayo Clinic. After that depending on what my Rad Onc and this new Onc says I will make some decisions on my tx. I am about 99% sure I will either change to this new Onc at Mayo clinic or the Mayo Clinic Onc I have already consulted with.

Today I finally was able to get into the pulminologist. Had a chest xray, breathing test :shock: , and then saw the doc. I failed the breathing test miserably, the resp therapist and doctor seemed shocked that I have had difficulty breathing for this long without anyone suggesting I use an inhaler or nebulizor. I told them I kept asking for a referal but all my doctors said it wouldn't help. The pulminologist came in and said "Wow, there is no way around it your situation just sucks!" Well thank you Captain Obvious! but the good thing is that she thinks she can help me. She had me start on two differant inhalers, One twice a day and the other as needed. I have used the 'as needed one' and it has already helped me greatly.

So this is my update, a big upheavel with doctors and hopefully these inhalers will help me breath better and be more comfortable. I am also switching to a low dose fentanyl patch for pain control, hoping I can get back to my normal activities without the loopiness.
DX Stage IV 11/25/08
mets liver lung, kras mutant
Baby 2yrs old! I am 32yrs
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby Bev G » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:07 pm

Hi Jess,dear,

Well, I think that sounds, all in all, like a trunk load of encouraging news. I've been wondering for months why no one tried giving you a bronchodilator (think I mentioned this before). I wonder if your onc had some sort of psychotic break...to act so out of character to what you are used to. He may well be frustrated and very sad because he can't think of anything that HE feels would be a brilliant intervention, but it never an acceptable role for him to refuse your reasonable request (pulmonologist) and then just blow you off. I think it's his role to HELP you find a clinical trial, to call his contacts across the country, and to help you formulate a new plan.

Well, once again, you buckled up and did it on your own. Good for you, Jess. The new plan (Mayo) sounds very, very good. I think it's a great time to get fresh eyes on the whole situation. If you are tumor free in your colon and liver *YEA*, then is it possible someone would try to cut that effing monster out of your lung? It must be incredibly gratifying to you to know that the chemo nightmares you've gone through in fact did benefit you. I'm so happy for you about that :)

I can hardly wait to see what the Mayo proposal is. Jess, I'm so glad things are looking up a little. You are never out of my thoughts and prayers.

Much love to you, and Lilli,

Bev
58 yo Type1 DM 48 years
12/09 Stage IV 2/22 nodes + liver met, colon resec
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby Ashlee H. » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:09 pm

Wow Jess! I'm so mad at that ONC for you! How dare he mess with our Jessica!!!
So glad you got some good news and help with the breathing.
I am always amazed by how you handle your journey. You are a true inspiration to the rest of us!
-Ashlee
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby RixInPhx » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:12 pm

Jess, whaat a terrible run-around you've gotten previously from your 'team'.
Can you formally complain to somebody?

Glad things have taken a turn for the better, and that you're breathing better.

Take care, Rick
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby adina91 » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:22 pm

I agree with Bev! This is encouraging news yay! And I am so mad about the way your onc treated you I could cry right now! I cannot believe that someone could be so flippant about something as precious as YOUR LIFE and your COMFORT!!!! Ugh!

Anyway, so happy to hear all this and glad you had a great visit with your family.
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby xharryx » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:31 pm

glad to hear you have gotten some help for your breathing. i dont know what kind of inhalers you have but my pulmonary specialist gave me a spacer to use with the inhalers. this really works and has helped me considerably. prior to using it, i did not feel i was getting the benefit of the inhaler as much as with it. it made a difference with me. of course, i dont have cancer, my husband does, but i have had asthma for years. just a suggestion for you and god bless you

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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby ams5796 » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:53 pm

Jess,

I think this will be a new start for you with a new oncologist at Mayo. I too think it's very encouraging.

You should be very proud of yourself for working this stuff out. Glad you had so much fun with your sister!

Ann
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby NWgirl » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:13 pm

Wow, wow and wow. Great job on sorting through all of this and making the changes you need to bring you comfort and hope. Sounds like a change of oncologist is definitely in order. It breaks my heart to hear these challenges you are dealing with, but inspired to see how down right tough you are. Good job Jess.
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby beth568 » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:37 pm

Wow...what a roller coaster for you. But how strong you are for taking the initiative and insisting that someone help - and I think you're very smart to look for a new onc.

I know your journey has not been an easy one lately, but your courage, determination and strength are amazing to me. I know you will keep fighting and that someone will get that beastly thing OUT of your lungs for you.
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby BrownBagger » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:44 pm

I second what Ann said. A new start can be a really good thing.

I'm still trying to figure these doctors out....
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby jjlist » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:04 pm

damn
wow! i am impressed.
i want you in my corner.
cancer doens't have a chance with you.
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby Anji » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:13 pm

I am so thrilled that the inhalers seem to be working and making you more comfortable! And a huge YEAH!!!! for the CT scan report! Jerk off doctor, not sharing that bit of news with you....

Sounds like you are coming up with a new plan, a new team, and have found a new "hope".....so proud of you Jess. Thanks for sharing with us. You inspire me with every single post....

Sending lots of love and hugs and prayers your way tonight.

Anji
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby tammylayne » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:40 pm

Hey Jess....so happy to hear that you got some help...and a new doc to help get things back on track for you!!

As for your onc - have you thought about reporting his behavious to the hospital patient advocate? When my old onc gave me the wrong chemo I reported it, and it went to the head of oncology. These types of things need to be reported so they can hopefully be dealt with so they do not happen to someone else. His behaviour is unacceptable!!

Again though....so glad you have some new plans...

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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby Lee » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:43 pm

Hi Jess,

Sorry for all the run around you have been through. I hope the new Onc is your ticket to kick some cancer "ass". Glad to hear the inhalers are successful.

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Lee
rectal cancer - April 2004
46 yrs old at diagnoses
stage III C - 6/13 lymph positive
radiation - 6 weeks
surgery - August 2004/hernia repair 2014
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Re: Finally breathing better and a little good news...

Postby Surroundedbylove » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:49 pm

Hi Jess,

So glad you've finally gotten some help. I hope the treatment helps the breathing and I really hope you can get an onc that wil be proactive in care and communication.

SBL
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