Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

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wifeofG

Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby wifeofG » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:54 pm

My husband is on his last round of MoviPrep, but the water is still pretty brown (the color of beef broth, if you want to know ;) -- is there anything else we should try?
This list was a great help getting ready for this -- Thanks!

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Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby cyberbn » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:08 pm

I must be the odd ball on this one. I didn't think the Moviprep was that bad relative to the other stuff I have had to take.
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Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby onlyson » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:12 pm

How did the 2nd round (2nd liter) go? Usually one is cleaned out after the 2nd liter.

My elderly mom drank the Golytely gallon prep before her first colonoscopy four years ago and had a difficult time with it. I asked her last year's gastroenterologist which one would cause her the least nausea when she went for her colonoscopy, and he thought Moviprep would because the biscodyl tablets weren't involved. After complaining of slight cramping and the taste, she actually had an easy time with it.

Before her operation in January of this year, her surgeon prescribed Half-Lytely with the tablets, plus the Citrate of Magnesia the day before. Between that, the 2 day diet, the Citrate of Magnesia and the antibiotics that need to be taken before surgery, she had a very hard time, got nauseous, regurgitated and had to stop drinking the prep on the 2nd day.

Her follow-up colonoscopy was on Monday and I told this year's gastroenterologist to prescribe Moviprep. She had a pretty easy time with it. She took sips of water with each glass, and sucked on a butterscotch candy from time to time in order to neutralise the taste of the Moviprep.

Personally, I had Golytely before my colonoscopy and didn't have any problems finishing it. Next time, however, I think I'll try Moviprep. I had a very small sip of it and it tasted like a lemon that was liberally sprinkled with salt.

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Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby morrohouse11 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:29 pm

Just finished moviprep, could only get down half of the second litre but i'm almost clear, will this have a big effect on colonscopy tomorrow morning? p.s my bum stings real bad :oops:

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Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby smoothielover » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:59 pm

It could--if the colon isn't totally clear, something important could be obscured from the GI's view.

I found the aloe "diaper wipes" to be helpful.

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Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby Polarprincess » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:48 pm

when had my colonoscopy locally they made me use golytely and getting that down was hard- NASTY, but they refuse to let you do anything else because they say the colon is not clean enough. When i went to mayo they had me do the moviprep and that was SO much easier and less to consume than the golytely. I will drive the 7 hours there again just to not have to do the golytely locally. With the movieprep though, the water was not clear until the very end..with the golytely it was clear much sooner...but i figure at mayo they do thousands of them a year and if they think it is a good enough prep, then it must be... Costs alot more too, but to me worth it.
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Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby lilbatz » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:57 pm

If it wasn't for all your help, I would have NEVER gotten the Moviprep all down for my colonscopy two months ago.

(found a large benign polyp, but that's for another post).

It wasn't the taste that got to me, but the smell. It reminded me of Lemon Scented Endust, and tasted just like you would think Endust would taste. GHASTLY. lol...

Anyhoo this is what helped me get all that nastiness down.

Clear liquids two days before the prep. I was grateful that I did that because the "output" wasn't nearly as bad.
Mixed and really chilled the Moviprep.
Used a straw to CHUG down.
Rinsed my mouth with warm salt water after the chugging.

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maryann7348

Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby maryann7348 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:40 pm

I tried to take this stuff and every single glass I would get down came right back up. It was the weekend of course so I decided to do the best I could and hope for the best. I had also been told to drink Magnesium Citrate. I had my husband go back to the drugstore and get two more bottles of MC. The taste is tolerable, I was able to drink it down like a bottle of pop and when I went to the dr today for the procedure he was a little angry I didn't follow his directions and thought he might have to have me come back......not the case..everything was clean as a whistle. I told him when I have my next one that is what I'm going to do again! He removed two polyups and I will know the results later in the week. So if you have a hard time drinking that crap (pun intended!) try drinking 3 or 4 bottles of Magnesium Citrate about 3 hrs apart.

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Everyone's comments appreciated!

Postby JNL » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:09 pm

How lucky I am to have found this web site! The date of my colonoscopy approaches, and I've learned a lot from everyone's experiences with the various bowel preparation products on the market. From what I've read here and elsewhere, I think I'd rather use Drāno than Golytely.

I'd like to return the favour by posting my experience with the bowel prep regimen that I came up with in consultation with my doctor.

"News at 11."

John

marc98124

Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby marc98124 » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:44 am

This was the worst stuff I have ever tried. I could not keep it down. I don't know if their is another choice but this was awful to say the least.

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Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby MnJewel » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:42 pm

So I'm here, reading about the prep as I am trying like everything to keep drinking this stuff. I've downed 1/2 the first jug, am shaking like a leaf, only water is coming out, I'm drinking 7up to chase it. I've only barfed once, so far, UGH! I'm scheduled at 10 in the morning. The Dr has no idea what is causing this extreme lower abdomen pain and thinks he might find the answer in my colon. I've been to the ER twice (waste of time) and my quality of life is zero. I am living in constant pain. You guys sure seem to know what is going on, so I thought I would join and learn everything I could. He says since it is painful I have to consider cancer a possibility. I'm 43 and have two little kids and a great career. My life had taken a turn for the wonderful the last few months until this extreme pain hit.

So I'm trying to keep drinking, thanks for letting me come here and join.

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Bowel prep for colonoscopy

Postby JNL » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:55 pm

Six years ago I endured the standard bowel preparation for my first colonoscopy in Southern California. Not knowing what was to come, I naively accepted my doctor's prescription to take Fleet Phospho-soda, without researching the product or the process first. Big mistake! Phospho-soda's taste caused me to gag...try as best I could, still I couldn't drink all of it. End result: My doctor said my bowel preparation was only "adequate," not good or excellent, which reduced his ability to see clearly during the colonoscopy.

This time I'm in Vancouver, BC, working with a different doctor. Before starting the bowel preparation process, I researched my options and learned a lot.

The doctor here first prescribed Golytely or Colyte, both of which are strong purgatives but are literally hard to swallow. When I asked to see a container of Golytely at the local pharmacy, they brought out a 4 liter plastic jug containing a significant quantity of white powder, to which 4 liters of water is added.

From what I learned about Golytely online and read here about its taste, there was no way I was going to drink that stuff! So I called my doctor and asked if I could use Pico-salax, a purgative that requires drinking a total of only 300 ml (about one and a half cups total) of a potion that reportedly doesn't taste badly. He agreed, so I bought some and have it ready to go. I'll follow up later with how it worked for me.

John

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Alternative bowel preparations

Postby JNL » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:38 pm

Compared to my first colonoscopy six years ago, when I endured the foul-tasting Fleet Phospho-soda for my bowel prep regimen (with only fair results), my experience with preparing for my second colonoscopy was uneventful and easy, and yielded excellent results, too.

Here are the results of my research and my own experience the second time round, and notes to myself for the next time I have a colonoscopy.

Allopathic doctor-approved bowel cleansing options (of which I am aware)

Fleet Phospho-Soda (sodium phosphate)

For me, taking this product is out of the question, because of my experience with its disgusting bilge-water taste, and various significant risks to the kidneys associated with sodium phosphates.

OsmoPrep (AKA Visicol) tablets (sodium phosphate)

However relatively easy it may be to use, this sodium phosphate product has real potential to be dangerous if not prescribed and used carefully because of its side effects; the product comes with a long list of warnings.

GoLytely (PEG-3350)

My research shows that many people have significant problems tolerating GoLytely and other PEG-3350 bowel preparations (including NuLytely, HalfLytely, Colyte, and MoviPrep). Words people use to describe it include: “nasty, awful, nauseating, vile, ghastly, makes me gag, nasty stuff, the worst, my electrolytes were completely screwed up.”

Pico-Salax (sodium picosulfate)

DrugLib.com suggests that people find that Pico-Salax tastes better than Golytely and requires less fluid intake than Golytely. Pico-Salax seems the most acceptable because it has the fewest side effects. There are very few reported studies of Pico-Salax, though it has been reported that children tolerate Pico-Salax better than PEG-3350 for bowel cleansing before colonoscopy.

Colon hydrotherapy (Colonic)

There’s a video on YouTube of a US gastroenterologist suggesting that colon hydrotherapy can be used in place of using chemicals in the traditional bowel cleansing regimen. Naturopathic doctors may be willing to perform colon hydrotherapy as part of one’s bowel cleansing, however, there no information of significance that I could find on the Internet of doctors supporting the use of colon hydrotherapy instead of the traditional bowel preparations as noted above.

My experience

I used Pico-salax and Dulcolax that my doctor prescribed, following the manufacturer’s suggested directions. My bowel prep regimen started at 7 am with a single sachet/packet dose of Pico-salax and two Ducolax tablets, and again at 1 pm the same day.

The Pico-salax powder, when mixed with 150 ml (about 3/4 cup) of water, looked like skimmed milk, and tasted like Tang, or “slightly off” Orange Crush, not disagreeable at all to me.

Although the Pico-salax instructions permitted a light breakfast, I chose to eat only Jello made from White Grape Juice and almost four liters of Gatorade and water to drink throughout the day.

The first stomach reaction was in the form of mild “stomach rumblings” which occurred half an hour after taking the Pico-salax; less than two hours later, the first of five subsequent desired results associated with this first dose was moderate and with about 10 minutes warning. My experience after the second dose of Pico-salax and Dulcolax at 1 pm was similar to the first dose.

To ensure excellent results the next day, early in the evening of my bowel prep after my two doses with Pico-salax I also had a colonic (colon hydrotherapy) performed by a local Vancouver naturopath who used an Aquanet EC2000 device. The experience was totally painless and relaxing. More importantly, from the device I could see for myself that using Pico-salax for my bowel prep was very effective, because the water running through the machine (and me) was 100% clear.

The next morning, my doctor was very pleased with my preparation, and characterized my bowel preparation as “excellent.”

For next time

I found the taste of Pico-salax to be easily tolerable, and was able to drink each dose at one time without difficulty. This is in stark contrast to the devil’s cocktail that my doctor in Southern California prescribed to me years ago. A major advantage of Pico-salax is the small volume of liquid (150 ml) required to be taken containing the purgative for each dose. (Users must follow up with drinking several cups of clear liquids while experiencing the effects of the purgative.)

Next time I will only use Pico-salax and Dulcolax for my next bowel preparation, though will probably not follow up with colon hydrotherapy. I highly recommend Pico-salax over any of the other bowel preparations on the market.

Please note that Pico-salax (AKA Picolax) is produced in the U.K and Canada, and may not be available through US pharmacies. However, it is available online at http://www.abconlinepharmacy.com (866-299-3784) and other Canadian online pharmacies for about CDN$25.00 + CDN$10.00 shipping for one box of two sachets (enough for one bowel preparation).

I’ll provide links to my research later.

Good luck!

John

Resources

Ferring Pharmaceuticals
Toronto, Ontario
800-263-4057

Active ingredients in Pico-salax:
Citric Acid EP: 12.0 g
Magnesium Oxide EP: 3.5 g
Sodium Picosulphate EP: 10 mg

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Bowel prep resources

Postby JNL » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:18 pm

Here are links to sources I used to research bowel preparation products:

Resources

Fleet Phospho-soda:
http://www.phosphosoda.com/fleet_oral_laxatives.php
http://www.fleetez-prep.com/health/health.html

OsmoPrep:
http://www.tabletprep.com/
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118548294/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

Visicol:
http://www.salix.com/products/visicol/index.aspx

OsmoPrep contraindications and cautions:
https://online.epocrates.com/u/1034672/OsmoPrep/Contraindications+Cautions

GoLytely:
https://online.epocrates.com/noFrame/showPage.do?method=drugs&MonographId=1999&ActiveSectionId=8
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3678160

Mannitol
http://www.scielo.br/pdf/rhc/v54n6/1964.pdf
http://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/13/5295.pdf

NuLytely
http://www.nulytely.com/

HalfLytely
http://www.halflytely.com/

Colyte video
http://s3.podiumsystems.com/iconomed/iconomed/kaiser/colonoscopy/colyte_preparation.html

MoviPrep
http://s3.podiumsystems.com/iconomed/iconomed/kaiser/colonoscopy/colyte_preparation.html

Pico-Salax
http://www.pico-salax.ca/eng_home.html
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0102-86502008000700018&script=sci_arttext
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17299615
http://www.find-health-articles.com/rec_pub_17299615-a-review-current-issues-underlying-colon-cleansing-colonoscopy.htm
http://www.druglib.com/abstract/la/lai-ak_clin-radiol_19960800.html
http://www.jpgn.org/pt/pt-core/template-journal/jpgn/media/resumos.pdf

LoSo Prep & NutraPrep
http://www.ezem.com/gastroenterology/loso.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15948817

Colon hydrotherapy on YouTube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeWjxHspRKs

Los Angeles Times article
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-toxicnew30-2008jun30,0,2299658.story

booding

Re: Moviprep - colonoscopy prep

Postby booding » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:15 pm

At the ripe age of 31, I am currently in the process of preparing for my third colonoscopy tomorrow. My GI Doc has also prescribed the MoviPrep system, a new endeavor for me. Needless to say, it's a pretty foul beast compared to the prior "prepping" I have done, which was usually a stiff combo of Magnesium Citrate and Ducolax - not pretty, but pretty effective.

I am just now finishing the first round of the solution, and it's taking me almost twice as long as recommended, however, seems to be working. (although, I am a little confused about the, um, color of what is leaving my body - it's clear, but looking closely related to the color of orange peel - similar to when I take Vitamin B...any constructive ideas?

Also, in a fit of whining about the taste, I did what all good girls do, I called my mom. Both of my parents have gone through this process several times, most recently my Pop. My mom made a suggestion that made slugging down the last of the solution somewhat bearable, (and slightly hilarious). When My Pop was struggling through the Nulytely Prep, my mom took the solution and poured it into a cocktail shaker with ice and shook it until it was super-duper cold. It doesn't completely remove the taste, but significantly lowering the temperature makes some of the horrendous briny-ness disappear and it goes down a lot smoother...now if I could just find that martini glass...


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